another eldritch blast question [Archive] - Wizards Community

another eldritch blast question [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Byael
07-12-05, 02:37 PM Can a warlock take supernatural transformation (savage species p39) for his eldritch blast? bypassing SR would be sweet!
thanks
Purkake
07-12-05, 03:25 PM No, he can't, read the FAQ :)
Zherog
07-12-05, 03:26 PM Here's Richard Baker's answer (source (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?p=5930254#post5930254)):

Q: Can the feat Supernatural Transformation from Savage Species change the Warlocks Eldritch Blast and Invocations from Spell Like Abilities to Supernatural Abilities?

A: I chatted with the developers, and we're of the opinion that the term "innate" in the description of the Supernatural Transformation feat means "spell-like abilities you got because of your race, not because of any class choices you might have made." So that would rule out the warlock's invocations and eldritch blast.

That said, we're not 100% sure that the feat would necessarily be broken for the warlock. The warlock is a pretty feat-thirsty class, so there is a real cost in picking this up to make your eldritch blast SR-proof, when you've got an eldritch essence available that can do the same thing. But just to be on the cautious side, we're saying no. Rule Zero us on this one if you like.

(As an aside...we've discovered that the word "innate" is one of those flavor words that often carries a mechanical connotation, and it's not always meant to. So be careful in trying to extend this particular ruling to other "innate" things, because "innate" seems to mean different things in different contexts.)
Byael
07-12-05, 03:32 PM argh! I knew it was too good to be true
spamfiltre
07-12-05, 03:34 PM RAW, no, but as stated above by the developers, it might not be broen because of the limited versatility of supernatural abilities.

Think twice before you give up a Quickened, Maximized Eldritch blast.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Byael 07-12-05, 02:37 PM	Can a warlock take supernatural transformation (savage species p39) for his eldritch blast? bypassing SR would be sweet! thanks
Purkake 07-12-05, 03:25 PM	No, he can't, read the FAQ :)
Zherog 07-12-05, 03:26 PM	Here's Richard Baker's answer (source (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?p=5930254#post5930254)): Q: Can the feat Supernatural Transformation from Savage Species change the Warlocks Eldritch Blast and Invocations from Spell Like Abilities to Supernatural Abilities? A: I chatted with the developers, and we're of the opinion that the term "innate" in the description of the Supernatural Transformation feat means "spell-like abilities you got because of your race, not because of any class choices you might have made." So that would rule out the warlock's invocations and eldritch blast. That said, we're not 100% sure that the feat would necessarily be broken for the warlock. The warlock is a pretty feat-thirsty class, so there is a real cost in picking this up to make your eldritch blast SR-proof, when you've got an eldritch essence available that can do the same thing. But just to be on the cautious side, we're saying no. Rule Zero us on this one if you like. (As an aside...we've discovered that the word "innate" is one of those flavor words that often carries a mechanical connotation, and it's not always meant to. So be careful in trying to extend this particular ruling to other "innate" things, because "innate" seems to mean different things in different contexts.)
Byael 07-12-05, 03:32 PM	argh! I knew it was too good to be true
spamfiltre 07-12-05, 03:34 PM	RAW, no, but as stated above by the developers, it might not be broen because of the limited versatility of supernatural abilities. Think twice before you give up a Quickened, Maximized Eldritch blast.