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OhMaahi 05-04-07, 09:50 PM	Hello, during my last game, an pc faced an opponent who had cast an antimagic field on himself. the player decided that his pc would cast displacer form (from the spellcompendium) and hit the enemy mage with her tentacles. I let her go then, but I am not sure if I should allow it again. Has my pc a viable tactic? Or should the tenecle just disappear when it enters the anitmagic field, or even be temporary depolymorphed? ~*Nik
Phalo 05-05-07, 01:27 AM	Hello, during my last game, an pc faced an opponent who had cast an antimagic field on himself. the player decided that his pc would cast displacer form (from the spellcompendium) and hit the enemy mage with her tentacles. I let her go then, but I am not sure if I should allow it again. Has my pc a viable tactic? Or should the tenecle just disappear when it enters the anitmagic field, or even be temporary depolymorphed? ~*Nik you should probably play it as an antimagic field ends the effect of all magic in its area. Now that brings about a unique circumstance tentacles demorph in normal form would be painful i would think
forsaken1111 05-05-07, 02:48 AM	you should probably play it as an antimagic field ends the effect of all magic in its area. Now that brings about a unique circumstance tentacles demorph in normal form would be painful i would think Personally I would have had the spell become supressed the instant any part of her entered the field to avoid oddball "I have a hand on my tentacle?!" things.
CantripN 05-05-07, 05:55 AM	Personally I would have had the spell become supressed the instant any part of her entered the field to avoid oddball "I have a hand on my tentacle?!" things. Except the AMF spell states clearly that parts that stay outside it are unaffected. Stupid ruling, but yeah.
forsaken1111 05-05-07, 06:01 AM	Except the AMF spell states clearly that parts that stay outside it are unaffected. Stupid ruling, but yeah. I realize its not 100% in keeping with the rules, but the rules really aren't clear on what happens to part of a magically transformed body thrust into an AMF. -shrug- Yet another reason why I generally don't give PC's in my game access to transformative magic. I don't deny it but I don't hand it out either, and they use it sparingly anyway.
Phalo 05-05-07, 12:03 PM	I realize its not 100% in keeping with the rules, but the rules really aren't clear on what happens to part of a magically transformed body thrust into an AMF. -shrug- Yet another reason why I generally don't give PC's in my game access to transformative magic. I don't deny it but I don't hand it out either, and they use it sparingly anyway. i would treat it as a part that got seperated from the body reverting to its natural form
Alcari Ambaron 05-05-07, 12:35 PM	As per the wording of AMF (which is know by DM's as 'the worst spell ever') the tentacle would excist outside of the field, but inside the tentacle would return to it's normal form, having the magical effect supressed. If you think that's wierd, imagine what happens when you cast an AMF over half of a summoned creature. An antimagic field suppresses any spell or magical effect used within, brought into, or cast into the area, but does not dispel it. Time spent within an antimagic field counts against the suppressed spell’s duration. Summoned creatures of any type and incorporeal undead wink out if they enter an antimagic field. They reappear in the same spot once the field goes away. (...SNIP...) A normal creature can enter the area, as can normal missiles. Furthermore, while a magic sword does not function magically within the area, it is still a sword (and a masterwork sword at that). The spell has no effect on golems and other constructs (...SNIP...) Elementals, corporeal undead, and outsiders are likewise unaffected unless summoned. (...SNIP...) Should a creature be larger than the area enclosed by the barrier, any part of it that lies outside the barrier is unaffected by the field. The last line supports the above mentioned theories, however, working something out with the players is often adviced in such situations, where the rules are fuzzy and VERY open to interpretation. We sat around and discussed what AMF can and cannot do, after I used one to partially unsumon a big scary demon, which resulted in one dead half here, and one dead half back on the abyss.
forsaken1111 05-05-07, 12:44 PM	after I used one to partially unsumon a big scary demon, which resulted in one dead half here, and one dead half back on the abyss. That's exactly why I ruled that any spell partially touched by the thing is supressed. A hand on the end of a tentacle probably doesn't 'line up' with the blood vessels and nerves in the tentacle. Hell its possible it will simply fall off. Likewise, a summoned creature half-supressed would be the best way to instakill an otherwise unkillable creature. Its just silly sometimes. :)