Antimagic and Summoning [Archive] - Wizards Community

Antimagic and Summoning [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
VanRiper
12-18-06, 01:17 PM Do antimagic effects/spells do anything to summoned monsters/astral constructs?

Sources are appreciated if possible :)
Seeker95
12-18-06, 01:41 PM Perhaps the text description of anti-magic field would be official enough?
"Summoned creatures of any type and incorporeal undead wink out if they enter an antimagic field."
VanRiper
12-19-06, 03:27 AM That applies to summoned monsters, but how about astral constructs? The anti-magic spell says that it does nothing to constructs and the astral construct power says:

"Astral constructs are not summoned; they are created on the plane you inhabit (using ectoplasm drawn from the Astral Plane). Thus, they are not subject to effects that hedge out or otherwise affect outsiders; they are constructs, not outsiders."

So, does that mean they act as constructs for the anti-magic spell (and are thus unaffected)?
CantripN
12-19-06, 08:40 AM That applies to summoned monsters, but how about astral constructs? The anti-magic spell says that it does nothing to constructs and the astral construct power says:

"Astral constructs are not summoned; they are created on the plane you inhabit (using ectoplasm drawn from the Astral Plane). Thus, they are not subject to effects that hedge out or otherwise affect outsiders; they are constructs, not outsiders."

So, does that mean they act as constructs for the anti-magic spell (and are thus unaffected)?

I'm unfamiliar with Psionics, but if the power has a Duration, it is suppressed. So a "Summon Golem" spell would still have the golem wink out in an AMF, if it has a Duration.

Now, I'm not sure what happens with "Bound" creatures. I suppose they stay here. So it depends on which one it is.
Seeker95
12-19-06, 09:52 AM So, does that mean they act as constructs for the anti-magic spell (and are thus unaffected)?If you play with psionics=transparent magic, then the astral construct is affected by AMF the same way a summoned creature would be. It is a magic effect. It is suppressed in an AMF.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
VanRiper 12-18-06, 01:17 PM	Do antimagic effects/spells do anything to summoned monsters/astral constructs? Sources are appreciated if possible :)
Seeker95 12-18-06, 01:41 PM	Perhaps the text description of anti-magic field would be official enough? "Summoned creatures of any type and incorporeal undead wink out if they enter an antimagic field."
VanRiper 12-19-06, 03:27 AM	That applies to summoned monsters, but how about astral constructs? The anti-magic spell says that it does nothing to constructs and the astral construct power says: "Astral constructs are not summoned; they are created on the plane you inhabit (using ectoplasm drawn from the Astral Plane). Thus, they are not subject to effects that hedge out or otherwise affect outsiders; they are constructs, not outsiders." So, does that mean they act as constructs for the anti-magic spell (and are thus unaffected)?
CantripN 12-19-06, 08:40 AM	That applies to summoned monsters, but how about astral constructs? The anti-magic spell says that it does nothing to constructs and the astral construct power says: "Astral constructs are not summoned; they are created on the plane you inhabit (using ectoplasm drawn from the Astral Plane). Thus, they are not subject to effects that hedge out or otherwise affect outsiders; they are constructs, not outsiders." So, does that mean they act as constructs for the anti-magic spell (and are thus unaffected)? I'm unfamiliar with Psionics, but if the power has a Duration, it is suppressed. So a "Summon Golem" spell would still have the golem wink out in an AMF, if it has a Duration. Now, I'm not sure what happens with "Bound" creatures. I suppose they stay here. So it depends on which one it is.
Seeker95 12-19-06, 09:52 AM	So, does that mean they act as constructs for the anti-magic spell (and are thus unaffected)?If you play with psionics=transparent magic, then the astral construct is affected by AMF the same way a summoned creature would be. It is a magic effect. It is suppressed in an AMF.