Any spells that give shadowy light besides the Darkness ones? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Any spells that give shadowy light besides the Darkness ones? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
LiamDeclan
10-09-06, 12:07 AM Is there anything out there that grants shadowy illumination or something like that besides Darkness and Deeper Darkness?
Wind of Darkness
10-09-06, 12:10 AM Not that I'm aware of, no.

Any particular reason why you need a spell other than darkness to create shadowy illumination with?
LiamDeclan
10-09-06, 12:28 AM Want to be able to have shadows available for hiding in, without having the Darkness spell which would also give my enemies concealment against my attack rolls.
The spell Darkness trumps out over darkvision/lowlight, I was looking for something that adjusted the illumination around me that wouldn't also hinder my vision.
Loki5654
10-09-06, 01:25 AM Use a darkness spell and then duct-tape a gem of seeing (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#gemofSeeing) to your face.:D
LiamDeclan
10-09-06, 02:41 AM Use a darkness spell and then duct-tape a gem of seeing (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#gemofSeeing) to your face.:D

;) Yeah this would really fit the flavor of my sneaky character.
not.
User5127
10-09-06, 08:51 AM what about a lower level spell that creates a darkness effect, but then add in something like Faerie fire to get small candle like flames thus creating shadowy illumination.

and can't shadow dancers eventually hide in plain sight?

but yea, a lower level darkness would create shadowy illumination, and its not a game breaking request to create/research it. ask your dm. as well, since it would fit into your character concept, name the spell after yourself. ^_^
"LiamDeclan's Shadows" or something. *shrugs*
Wind of Darkness
10-09-06, 09:33 AM and can't shadow dancers eventually hide in plain sight?

At first level in the class. They need shadows to do it, though. Any shadow other than their own.

Hang on... AHA! I forgot about it last night, but there is one spell I know of in Heroes of Battle. It's called early twilight, and it reduces illumination by one step (so from normal to shadowy, but low light vision and darkvision still work) in an 80ft radius cylinder. It's Clr 4, Hexblade 4, Sor/Wiz 4. Probably 4th level because of the huge area of effect (and it lasts a while, too).
Dheran
10-09-06, 11:23 AM Why not just use Darkness/Deeper Darkness (boy, I just hate that name -- it's not deeper, and it's not darkness) and use Ebon Eyes so it doesn't impair your vision?
LiamDeclan
10-09-06, 01:31 PM Okay thanks for the help so far.
I guess I should tell you what it is I am up to so far.
5th level Swordsage with the Dark Creature Template that gives me Hide in Plain Sight.

I need to find a way when I bring this character into the campaign to be able to have shadows readily available for me to hide in. I need something that won't hinder my darkvision as well.

Might have to pick up an arcane class to get Ebon Eyes or even grab Warlock for the Devil's Sight or whatever thats called.

I still am going to look for a spell that wouldn't hinder me or allies.
LiamDeclan
10-09-06, 02:49 PM Man I really should be doing something else right now, like balancing my checkbook but I'm not.

Anyway does Early Twilight when it gives me shadowy illumination hinder anyone without darkvision? Do they still have a miss chance to hit or be hit?
IceFractal
10-09-06, 03:52 PM Dusk, from the BoVD. It's a cantrip which is similar to Darkness, but it creates non-magical darkness (in which Darkvision works), and is a smaller area.
IMarvinTPA
10-09-06, 04:00 PM Darklight (http://www.imarvintpa.com/dndLive/spells.php?ID=4447) seems to be exactly what you want.

Here's the rest of the darkness descriptor (http://www.imarvintpa.com/dndLive/DescriptorIndexS.php?Descriptor=Darkness ).

IMarv
Wind of Darkness
10-09-06, 06:13 PM Anyway does Early Twilight when it gives me shadowy illumination hinder anyone without darkvision? Do they still have a miss chance to hit or be hit?

Yes. That's how shadowy illumination works. Nothing to do with the spell.
LiamDeclan
10-10-06, 04:06 AM Dusk, from the BoVD. It's a cantrip which is similar to Darkness, but it creates non-magical darkness (in which Darkvision works), and is a smaller area.

I didn't see anything by the name of that spell, but did you mean No Light? It is a cantrip and does what you said Dusk did. I think this is perfect.
LiamDeclan
10-10-06, 04:06 AM Darklight (http://www.imarvintpa.com/dndLive/spells.php?ID=4447) seems to be exactly what you want.

Here's the rest of the darkness descriptor (http://www.imarvintpa.com/dndLive/DescriptorIndexS.php?Descriptor=Darkness ).

IMarv

IMarv thanks for your help and I saved your Database in my Favorites thanks.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
LiamDeclan 10-09-06, 12:07 AM	Is there anything out there that grants shadowy illumination or something like that besides Darkness and Deeper Darkness?
Wind of Darkness 10-09-06, 12:10 AM	Not that I'm aware of, no. Any particular reason why you need a spell other than darkness to create shadowy illumination with?
LiamDeclan 10-09-06, 12:28 AM	Want to be able to have shadows available for hiding in, without having the Darkness spell which would also give my enemies concealment against my attack rolls. The spell Darkness trumps out over darkvision/lowlight, I was looking for something that adjusted the illumination around me that wouldn't also hinder my vision.
Loki5654 10-09-06, 01:25 AM	Use a darkness spell and then duct-tape a gem of seeing (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#gemofSeeing) to your face.:D
LiamDeclan 10-09-06, 02:41 AM	Use a darkness spell and then duct-tape a gem of seeing (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#gemofSeeing) to your face.:D ;) Yeah this would really fit the flavor of my sneaky character. not.
User5127 10-09-06, 08:51 AM	what about a lower level spell that creates a darkness effect, but then add in something like Faerie fire to get small candle like flames thus creating shadowy illumination. and can't shadow dancers eventually hide in plain sight? but yea, a lower level darkness would create shadowy illumination, and its not a game breaking request to create/research it. ask your dm. as well, since it would fit into your character concept, name the spell after yourself. ^_^ "LiamDeclan's Shadows" or something. shrugs
Wind of Darkness 10-09-06, 09:33 AM	and can't shadow dancers eventually hide in plain sight? At first level in the class. They need shadows to do it, though. Any shadow other than their own. Hang on... AHA! I forgot about it last night, but there is one spell I know of in Heroes of Battle. It's called early twilight, and it reduces illumination by one step (so from normal to shadowy, but low light vision and darkvision still work) in an 80ft radius cylinder. It's Clr 4, Hexblade 4, Sor/Wiz 4. Probably 4th level because of the huge area of effect (and it lasts a while, too).
Dheran 10-09-06, 11:23 AM	Why not just use Darkness/Deeper Darkness (boy, I just hate that name -- it's not deeper, and it's not darkness) and use Ebon Eyes so it doesn't impair your vision?
LiamDeclan 10-09-06, 01:31 PM	Okay thanks for the help so far. I guess I should tell you what it is I am up to so far. 5th level Swordsage with the Dark Creature Template that gives me Hide in Plain Sight. I need to find a way when I bring this character into the campaign to be able to have shadows readily available for me to hide in. I need something that won't hinder my darkvision as well. Might have to pick up an arcane class to get Ebon Eyes or even grab Warlock for the Devil's Sight or whatever thats called. I still am going to look for a spell that wouldn't hinder me or allies.
LiamDeclan 10-09-06, 02:49 PM	Man I really should be doing something else right now, like balancing my checkbook but I'm not. Anyway does Early Twilight when it gives me shadowy illumination hinder anyone without darkvision? Do they still have a miss chance to hit or be hit?
IceFractal 10-09-06, 03:52 PM	Dusk, from the BoVD. It's a cantrip which is similar to Darkness, but it creates non-magical darkness (in which Darkvision works), and is a smaller area.
IMarvinTPA 10-09-06, 04:00 PM	Darklight (http://www.imarvintpa.com/dndLive/spells.php?ID=4447) seems to be exactly what you want. Here's the rest of the darkness descriptor (http://www.imarvintpa.com/dndLive/DescriptorIndexS.php?Descriptor=Darkness ). IMarv
Wind of Darkness 10-09-06, 06:13 PM	Anyway does Early Twilight when it gives me shadowy illumination hinder anyone without darkvision? Do they still have a miss chance to hit or be hit? Yes. That's how shadowy illumination works. Nothing to do with the spell.
LiamDeclan 10-10-06, 04:06 AM	Dusk, from the BoVD. It's a cantrip which is similar to Darkness, but it creates non-magical darkness (in which Darkvision works), and is a smaller area. I didn't see anything by the name of that spell, but did you mean No Light? It is a cantrip and does what you said Dusk did. I think this is perfect.
LiamDeclan 10-10-06, 04:06 AM	Darklight (http://www.imarvintpa.com/dndLive/spells.php?ID=4447) seems to be exactly what you want. Here's the rest of the darkness descriptor (http://www.imarvintpa.com/dndLive/DescriptorIndexS.php?Descriptor=Darkness ). IMarv IMarv thanks for your help and I saved your Database in my Favorites thanks.