Any way to cast lv2 spell being CL 1? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Any way to cast lv2 spell being CL 1? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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bjorsa
04-22-08, 04:52 PM We were having a discussion weather you can trick yourself into a prestige class, granted of course that you interpret the requirements in a very opportunistic way.
Is there a magic item or any other costly trick I can use if I badly need to "prepare and cast" (as it is worded in ComplArc) a spell of higher level than I can normally cast? Like casting Glitterdust with a character of level 1-3, using some sort of ...cheat thingie? Is there a scroll work-around perhaps? Anyways, sorcerers can also PrC as e.g. MotAO (from the text: "... the order boasts almost no bards, sorcerers ...") and they certainly don't prepare any spells. Sloppy wording yet again?

Just interested in what you guys who actually know the game have to say about it. Thanks a lot!
nytemare3701
04-22-08, 05:19 PM There is a feat called Arcane Preperation, which is probably what the PrC was referring to.
Eerongal
04-22-08, 05:31 PM the feat Precocious apprentice from complete arcane is what i think you would be looking for. It isn't in the feat section, its on a sidebar somewhere in the book (i'll check later) but as far as if it lets you qualify for a prestiege class is debated, and subject to DM approval. It lets you prepare a single 2nd level spell at level 1, but when you cast if you have to make a caster level check to see if you succeed. When you can cast 2nd level spells, you just have an extra spell slot.

Once again, as i said, its very much so subjective to DM interpretation, so it isnt written as law as working like that. Hope that helps!
bjorsa
04-22-08, 05:44 PM This forum continues to amaze me. I ask any question and within minutes I get minimum two helpful answers from friendly and fantastically well informed forum dwellers. Kudos to all of you!

I'll wade through the CA and see if I can find that feat.
Eerongal
04-22-08, 07:05 PM This forum continues to amaze me. I ask any question and within minutes I get minimum two helpful answers from friendly and fantastically well informed forum dwellers. Kudos to all of you!

I'll wade through the CA and see if I can find that feat.

It's on page 181. (Just got home and now have access to my books :P )

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bjorsa 04-22-08, 04:52 PM	We were having a discussion weather you can trick yourself into a prestige class, granted of course that you interpret the requirements in a very opportunistic way. Is there a magic item or any other costly trick I can use if I badly need to "prepare and cast" (as it is worded in ComplArc) a spell of higher level than I can normally cast? Like casting Glitterdust with a character of level 1-3, using some sort of ...cheat thingie? Is there a scroll work-around perhaps? Anyways, sorcerers can also PrC as e.g. MotAO (from the text: "... the order boasts almost no bards, sorcerers ...") and they certainly don't prepare any spells. Sloppy wording yet again? Just interested in what you guys who actually know the game have to say about it. Thanks a lot!
nytemare3701 04-22-08, 05:19 PM	There is a feat called Arcane Preperation, which is probably what the PrC was referring to.
Eerongal 04-22-08, 05:31 PM	the feat Precocious apprentice from complete arcane is what i think you would be looking for. It isn't in the feat section, its on a sidebar somewhere in the book (i'll check later) but as far as if it lets you qualify for a prestiege class is debated, and subject to DM approval. It lets you prepare a single 2nd level spell at level 1, but when you cast if you have to make a caster level check to see if you succeed. When you can cast 2nd level spells, you just have an extra spell slot. Once again, as i said, its very much so subjective to DM interpretation, so it isnt written as law as working like that. Hope that helps!
bjorsa 04-22-08, 05:44 PM	This forum continues to amaze me. I ask any question and within minutes I get minimum two helpful answers from friendly and fantastically well informed forum dwellers. Kudos to all of you! I'll wade through the CA and see if I can find that feat.
Eerongal 04-22-08, 07:05 PM	This forum continues to amaze me. I ask any question and within minutes I get minimum two helpful answers from friendly and fantastically well informed forum dwellers. Kudos to all of you! I'll wade through the CA and see if I can find that feat. It's on page 181. (Just got home and now have access to my books :P )