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Manikus 01-19-06, 11:02 PM	Can metamagic feats be used with arcane fire, archmage ability? For instance, can I take a 5th level spell and turn it into arcane fire which would do 10d6 points of damage, then maximize it?
dog45 01-19-06, 11:22 PM	No. Metamagic feats must be used with spells, and Arcane Fire is a Supernatural Ability. However, you could petition your DM to allow it. An example with a 5th level Archmage. Channel a 2nd level spell into Arcane Fire, so it deals (5d6+2d6) 7d6. Then apply the Maximize Spell metamagic feat, which would raise the spell level by 3. So you would actually be channeling a 5th level spell to deal 7d6, but it would be Maximized.