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Muxe 03-04-08, 02:03 PM	In the spell description, information on the silver cord is stated to be in the DMG. No page # is given. I can't find any information on the silver cord at all in the DMG. I need to know how you can destroy the thing. Where in the DMG is the information on the silver cord? Any direction or help on hte silver Cord would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Old_Troll 03-04-08, 02:36 PM	Manual of the Planes p.49 Only a few circumstances such as the psychic wind, and attack form an astral dreadnought, or a blow from a powerful githyanki sword, can sever this cord. Monsters, items, and circumstances cannot sever a silver cord unless this ability is psecifically noted. Another tidbit: An astral traveler is automatically aware if his silver cord is threatened--but not automatically warned if his original body is threatened,... That help?
Muxe 03-04-08, 02:51 PM	Yes it does help a lot. Odd the spell refers you to the DMG though.
groveborn 03-04-08, 04:00 PM	Odd though it seems, the DMG was the only source for any information on Astral travel at the time. In the Astral Planar description an encounter with Githyanki is provided, which are one of the few things that can sever the silver cord (though not mentioned in the DMG, it would then point you to the MM, which would tell you).
Muxe 03-05-08, 03:20 PM	What if I were to scry on the physical original body while he is in astral form. Would he still get the normal Will save he would normally get even though he's not there to resist it? Would it be like I'm scrying on an object or what??
Old_Troll 03-05-08, 09:25 PM	What if I were to scry on the physical original body while he is in astral form. Would he still get the normal Will save he would normally get even though he's not there to resist it? Would it be like I'm scrying on an object or what?? I'm unaware of what ruling would apply to that, but as I've almost always an opinion..., I would not allow a save as his (?) consciencousness is not present. As for whether he counts as an object or person; if he counts as an object, he is not scryable. Scry only works on people. No, the spell doesn't say that specifically, but there is no framework for it to work. Having said that, most DMs that I know have come up with some house rule to cover this. Also, remember that scrying only gives you a 10ft radius of vision around the subject. From the DMs perspective, this is an excellent opportunity to give (or withhold) clues for the characters to ponder. "The mage is in a state of suspended animation. The floor he stands upon is covered in pale green sand on which some slanting sunlight falls. Just within your vision rests a huge (2ft length) ivory claw, which from the angle it rests at, could mean that it is still attached to its owner." They might deduce that the room is on a particular continent, near a beach, and there is a large beast present. Some Lore might provide identification of the claw, and further scrying might reveal more. Sorry, rambling again. If a mage is high level enough to go wandering about in Astral form, he would be a fool (and soon a dead fool) to not have his body in a scry proof room with plenty of traps/protections/guardians and a few loyal friends.
Old_Troll 03-05-08, 09:25 PM	Dang double post!
groveborn 03-05-08, 09:43 PM	A creature is always entitled to a save. This is discussed in this very forum.
groveborn 03-05-08, 09:48 PM	A creature is always entitled to a save. This is discussed in this very forum.