Awaken Animal quesion [Archive] - Wizards Community

Awaken Animal quesion [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
yonman
08-03-06, 01:13 PM I don't have access to the FAQ atm, and I think it's been answered before,

But, when an animal changes to a Magical Beast subtype, do you have to change it's HD, saves, BAB, etc?
mvincent
08-03-06, 01:34 PM when an animal changes to a Magical Beast subtype, do you have to change it's HD, saves, BAB, etc?Nope
yonman
08-03-06, 01:42 PM Thanks, is there any confirmation sources or do you have a reason?
mvincent
08-03-06, 01:56 PM Thanks, is there any confirmation sources or do you have a reason?The 3.5 FAQ says:
"A PC with racial Hit Dice (such as a centaur) gains base
attack and save bonuses from his racial HD as well as any class
levels he has. If such a character’s type changes, his base attack
and saves change only if the source of the change indicates that
they change."

Also, the rules of the game (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20060725a) says:
"what happens to a bugbear (3 racial Hit Dice) who reaches 20th level as a monk and becomes an outsider? The rules don't say, but according to Part One, a creature usually retains the features of its original type (Hit Dice size, base attack bonus, base saves). The change in type doesn't alter the bugbear's racial Hit Dice, nor the base attack bonus, base save bonuses, or skill points the bugbear gains from those Hit Dice."

Lastly, from the Core rules (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#augmentedSubtype):
" An awakened animal... type becomes magical beast (augmented animal)."
"A creature with the augmented subtype usually has the traits of its current type, but the features of its original type."

"Features" include HD, saves, BAB, etc.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
yonman 08-03-06, 01:13 PM	I don't have access to the FAQ atm, and I think it's been answered before, But, when an animal changes to a Magical Beast subtype, do you have to change it's HD, saves, BAB, etc?
mvincent 08-03-06, 01:34 PM	when an animal changes to a Magical Beast subtype, do you have to change it's HD, saves, BAB, etc?Nope
yonman 08-03-06, 01:42 PM	Thanks, is there any confirmation sources or do you have a reason?
mvincent 08-03-06, 01:56 PM	Thanks, is there any confirmation sources or do you have a reason?The 3.5 FAQ says: "A PC with racial Hit Dice (such as a centaur) gains base attack and save bonuses from his racial HD as well as any class levels he has. If such a character’s type changes, his base attack and saves change only if the source of the change indicates that they change." Also, the rules of the game (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20060725a) says: "what happens to a bugbear (3 racial Hit Dice) who reaches 20th level as a monk and becomes an outsider? The rules don't say, but according to Part One, a creature usually retains the features of its original type (Hit Dice size, base attack bonus, base saves). The change in type doesn't alter the bugbear's racial Hit Dice, nor the base attack bonus, base save bonuses, or skill points the bugbear gains from those Hit Dice." Lastly, from the Core rules (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#augmentedSubtype): " An awakened animal... type becomes magical beast (augmented animal)." "A creature with the augmented subtype usually has the traits of its current type, but the features of its original type." "Features" include HD, saves, BAB, etc.