Awaken Question (Nevermind! I found the answer.) [Archive] - Wizards Community

Awaken Question (Nevermind! I found the answer.) [Archive] - Wizards Community

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TheMagister
06-20-05, 01:22 AM When I cast the Awaken spell on an animal, "its type becomes magical beast (augmented animal)."

Easy enough.

However, there are MARKED advantages to being a magical beast-type over being an animal-type. Some of the things gained are:

Increased Hit Dice size: d8 to d10.
Increased Base Attack: 3/4 HD (as cleric) to Total HD (as fighter)

These are just a few of the examples found in the glossary of the Monster Manual.

My question is: does an awakened animal GAIN these features retroactively?

Thanks...

TM
wonderland666
06-20-05, 06:46 AM Yes to both.
(IT's like getting the Lichtemplate, your HD and BAB changes)
RaspK FOG
06-20-05, 07:18 AM Actually, having an augmented subtype means that the creature retains its features (d8 HD, BAB = 3/4 HD, High Fort & Refl saves, 2 + Int modifier [minimum 1] skill points), but not its traits (Intelligence score of either 1 or 2, Low-light vision, neutral alignment, no treasure, only proficient with its natural attacks [as secondary if a noncombatant herbivore], not proficient with armour unless trained for war, and requiring feeding, sleep, and breathing); instead, it gains the traits of its current type (Darkvision out to 60 feet and low-light vision, only proficient with its natural weapons, proficient with no armour, and requring feeding, sleep, and breathing). So no to both (check your Monster Manual).

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TheMagister 06-20-05, 01:22 AM	When I cast the Awaken spell on an animal, "its type becomes magical beast (augmented animal)." Easy enough. However, there are MARKED advantages to being a magical beast-type over being an animal-type. Some of the things gained are: Increased Hit Dice size: d8 to d10. Increased Base Attack: 3/4 HD (as cleric) to Total HD (as fighter) These are just a few of the examples found in the glossary of the Monster Manual. My question is: does an awakened animal GAIN these features retroactively? Thanks... TM
wonderland666 06-20-05, 06:46 AM	Yes to both. (IT's like getting the Lichtemplate, your HD and BAB changes)
RaspK FOG 06-20-05, 07:18 AM	Actually, having an augmented subtype means that the creature retains its features (d8 HD, BAB = 3/4 HD, High Fort & Refl saves, 2 + Int modifier [minimum 1] skill points), but not its traits (Intelligence score of either 1 or 2, Low-light vision, neutral alignment, no treasure, only proficient with its natural attacks [as secondary if a noncombatant herbivore], not proficient with armour unless trained for war, and requiring feeding, sleep, and breathing); instead, it gains the traits of its current type (Darkvision out to 60 feet and low-light vision, only proficient with its natural weapons, proficient with no armour, and requring feeding, sleep, and breathing). So no to both (check your Monster Manual).