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Bedlamtom 08-11-07, 03:45 PM	I realize that Boguns are listed as constructs but they are druid made plant creatures. Could they be awakened? Also is there anything that keeps a druid from making an army of Boguns?
bloodtalon 08-11-07, 04:17 PM	how i understand the bogun a druid can only have one at a time as for awaken spells in savage species there is a spell called awaken constuct but a druid can not cast it
Bedlamtom 08-11-07, 04:25 PM	I just read the Bogun writeup and the beget Bogun spell from the spell compendium and unless I'm blind nothing limits the druid to only one, not even in the fluff.
locustechpriest 08-11-07, 04:32 PM	There you have it. Awakened bogun army, arise!! (Sorry for spamming, but it seems like this topic is more of less done anyway...)
CantripN 08-12-07, 01:37 AM	Problems: Each costs 25 XP. DC 12 Craft check for each one. Must be 7th level, so they are VERY weak. They aren't Mindless, so you can't Awaken them. An attack that destroys a Bogun deals the Druid 2d10 points of damage! Must cast Control Plants for each creation (an 8th level spell!). Must have Craft Wondrous Item.
Bedlamtom 08-12-07, 07:28 AM	Problems: Each costs 25 XP. DC 12 Craft check for each one. Must be 7th level, so they are VERY weak. They aren't Mindless, so you can't Awaken them. An attack that destroys a Bogun deals the Druid 2d10 points of damage! Must cast Control Plants for each creation (an 8th level spell!). Must have Craft Wondrous Item. 25 Xp is nothing DC 12 Craft check can be done by taking 10 They are weak, but if you had a lair, they'd make a great spy network to notify you of company Yeah I didn't think I could awaken them but I had to ask what folks thought the 2d10 dam is bad, so I'd have to make certain that they all didn't get killed at once I have to think that the inclusion of an 8th level spell is a mistake. I don't mind burning the feat, I'll use it to make other goodies!
Grumman 08-12-07, 12:39 PM	Problems: They aren't Mindless, so you can't Awaken them. I can't speak for the version in Savage Species, but the Awaken Construct spell in the Spell Compendium doesn't have this limitation. You'd still need to find a cleric or wizard willing to spend 5000xp to make your walking detritus sentient.
risner 08-13-07, 11:57 PM	I realize that Boguns are listed as constructs but they are druid made plant creatures. Could they be awakened? Also is there anything that keeps a druid from making an army of Boguns? If Awaken worked on Constructs, then yes. But unless you can show a version of Awaken that works on constructs, then no. You can never have more than one Bogun, just like Wizards can never have more than one Homunculus.
Bedlamtom 08-14-07, 12:04 AM	If Awaken worked on Constructs, then yes. But unless you can show a version of Awaken that works on constructs, then no. You can never have more than one Bogun, just like Wizards can never have more than one Homunculus. I never really thought I could awaken it, but I wanted to see what folks said. On the other hand show me one indication in either the fluff or the crunchy bits for the bogun writeup or the beget bogun spell that limits a druid to one. I cannot find one.
CantripN 08-14-07, 04:20 AM	Also, there's Awaken Construct, which I think people were referring to. Sure, it's a 9th level spell...