Bead of Smiting - Trigger? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Bead of Smiting - Trigger? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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angelroble2
03-22-08, 06:52 AM Bead of Smiting (from Strand of Prayer Beads) is a trigger item. Unfortunately, the spells replicated are all of them Domain spells. Does it mean a cleric without any of those domains can't use the bead?
CantripN
03-22-08, 07:02 AM Anyone who can cast divine spells can use it just fine.
angelroble2
03-22-08, 07:16 AM That's how I think it should be, but from the main FAQ:
"To activate a spell completion or spell trigger item, the
spell in the item must appear on your class spell list. How
do you handle a cleric’s domain spells? Most deities have
three or four domains, but a cleric chooses only two of
them. Are only the spells from the domains the cleric has
chosen on his class spell list for the purpose of activating
these items? Or are the spells for all domains associated
with the cleric’s deity on his class spell list? Also, which
spells are on a specialist wizard’s class spell list? Do all
wizard spells remain on the wizard class spell list, even
when the wizard has chosen a specialty and his prohibited
schools?
If you’re a cleric, spells from the domains you have
selected are part of your class spell list. Spells from domains
you could have selected, but did not, are not part of your class
spell list (unless you get them on your class spell list some
other way, such as by gaining another domain or adding
another class).
Spells from a specialist wizard’s prohibited schools are not
part of his class spell list."
That means the bead of smiting is rather useless for most chars.
CantripN
03-22-08, 07:40 AM I know that. But what makes you think it's a Spell Trigger item?
angelroble2
03-22-08, 07:42 AM From SRD
"A lesser strand of prayer beads has a bead of blessing and a bead of healing. A strand of prayer beads has a bead of healing, a bead of karma, and a bead of smiting. A greater strand of prayer beads has a bead of healing, a bead of karma, a bead of summons, and a bead of wind walking.

Each special bead can be used once per day, except for the bead of summons, which works only once and then becomes nonmagical. The beads of blessing, smiting, and wind walking function as spell trigger items; the beads of karma and summons can be activated by any character capable of casting divine spells. "
Merestil Haye
03-22-08, 07:43 AM Reading the item :The beads of blessing, smiting, and wind walking function as spell trigger items; the beads of karma and summons can be activated by any character capable of casting divine spells.Therefore yes, the Bead of Smiting is a spell trigger item and thus in order to use it a character must have the spell on their class spell list.

That does mean they need to have taken the relevant domain.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
angelroble2 03-22-08, 06:52 AM	Bead of Smiting (from Strand of Prayer Beads) is a trigger item. Unfortunately, the spells replicated are all of them Domain spells. Does it mean a cleric without any of those domains can't use the bead?
CantripN 03-22-08, 07:02 AM	Anyone who can cast divine spells can use it just fine.
angelroble2 03-22-08, 07:16 AM	That's how I think it should be, but from the main FAQ: "To activate a spell completion or spell trigger item, the spell in the item must appear on your class spell list. How do you handle a cleric’s domain spells? Most deities have three or four domains, but a cleric chooses only two of them. Are only the spells from the domains the cleric has chosen on his class spell list for the purpose of activating these items? Or are the spells for all domains associated with the cleric’s deity on his class spell list? Also, which spells are on a specialist wizard’s class spell list? Do all wizard spells remain on the wizard class spell list, even when the wizard has chosen a specialty and his prohibited schools? If you’re a cleric, spells from the domains you have selected are part of your class spell list. Spells from domains you could have selected, but did not, are not part of your class spell list (unless you get them on your class spell list some other way, such as by gaining another domain or adding another class). Spells from a specialist wizard’s prohibited schools are not part of his class spell list." That means the bead of smiting is rather useless for most chars.
CantripN 03-22-08, 07:40 AM	I know that. But what makes you think it's a Spell Trigger item?
angelroble2 03-22-08, 07:42 AM	From SRD "A lesser strand of prayer beads has a bead of blessing and a bead of healing. A strand of prayer beads has a bead of healing, a bead of karma, and a bead of smiting. A greater strand of prayer beads has a bead of healing, a bead of karma, a bead of summons, and a bead of wind walking. Each special bead can be used once per day, except for the bead of summons, which works only once and then becomes nonmagical. The beads of blessing, smiting, and wind walking function as spell trigger items; the beads of karma and summons can be activated by any character capable of casting divine spells. "
Merestil Haye 03-22-08, 07:43 AM	Reading the item :The beads of blessing, smiting, and wind walking function as spell trigger items; the beads of karma and summons can be activated by any character capable of casting divine spells.Therefore yes, the Bead of Smiting is a spell trigger item and thus in order to use it a character must have the spell on their class spell list. That does mean they need to have taken the relevant domain.