Benign/Baleful transposition [Archive] - Wizards Community

Benign/Baleful transposition [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Chaos_Infidel
01-28-06, 10:10 PM I have become aware of a 1st lvl sorc/wiz spell that allows the caster to switch places with any target within 25 +5ft/2 lvls. No saving throw. Has anyone heard of either of these spells and know where they could be found?
Jherid
01-28-06, 10:22 PM Minis Handbook / Spell Compendium
cwslyclgh
01-28-06, 10:23 PM benign transposition doesn't have a save because it only effects willing targets. Baleful transposition (2nd level) effects unwilling targest, and is Will save negates.
Dragonteuthis
01-28-06, 10:40 PM Technically, this is a house rule, but it's something I've injected into those two spells to avoid unnecessary cheese.

Benign Transposition cannot be used on a grappled target.

If a creature is grappling the target of Baleful Transposition, he may make a Will save as well. If either Will save succeeds, the spell fails as if the target made the will save.

This prevents the wizard from burning a 1st-level spell slot to rescue a fellow from the clutches of a monster, and transpose him with, say, the party's Raging Barbarian. Especially since the usefulness of that technique only goes up as the party gets higher in level.

I'd like to emphasize once again, that's a personal house rule.

Now, on a different note, I'd like to point out an important statement from the PHB, Page 175, Under Aiming a Spell; Target or Targets: "Unconscious creatures are automatically considered willing..." so yes, you can transposition your ally who's at -7 out of the front lines, with a first-level spells. It's really an amazingly handy spell.
Chaos_Infidel
01-28-06, 10:55 PM thanks for all the input. I appreciate it.
Battlegroundgames
01-29-06, 02:40 AM The Benign Transposition spell has a major and arguably game changing effect on D&D combat.

I highly recommend adding this line of text to the body of the spell:

"Any transposed ally must spend one move action to reacclimate himself to his new position at the beginning of his next turn."

This will prevent the "full attack action" combo that makes this spell an absolute boss-killer.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Chaos_Infidel 01-28-06, 10:10 PM	I have become aware of a 1st lvl sorc/wiz spell that allows the caster to switch places with any target within 25 +5ft/2 lvls. No saving throw. Has anyone heard of either of these spells and know where they could be found?
Jherid 01-28-06, 10:22 PM	Minis Handbook / Spell Compendium
cwslyclgh 01-28-06, 10:23 PM	benign transposition doesn't have a save because it only effects willing targets. Baleful transposition (2nd level) effects unwilling targest, and is Will save negates.
Dragonteuthis 01-28-06, 10:40 PM	Technically, this is a house rule, but it's something I've injected into those two spells to avoid unnecessary cheese. Benign Transposition cannot be used on a grappled target. If a creature is grappling the target of Baleful Transposition, he may make a Will save as well. If either Will save succeeds, the spell fails as if the target made the will save. This prevents the wizard from burning a 1st-level spell slot to rescue a fellow from the clutches of a monster, and transpose him with, say, the party's Raging Barbarian. Especially since the usefulness of that technique only goes up as the party gets higher in level. I'd like to emphasize once again, that's a personal house rule. Now, on a different note, I'd like to point out an important statement from the PHB, Page 175, Under Aiming a Spell; Target or Targets: "Unconscious creatures are automatically considered willing..." so yes, you can transposition your ally who's at -7 out of the front lines, with a first-level spells. It's really an amazingly handy spell.
Chaos_Infidel 01-28-06, 10:55 PM	thanks for all the input. I appreciate it.
Battlegroundgames 01-29-06, 02:40 AM	The Benign Transposition spell has a major and arguably game changing effect on D&D combat. I highly recommend adding this line of text to the body of the spell: "Any transposed ally must spend one move action to reacclimate himself to his new position at the beginning of his next turn." This will prevent the "full attack action" combo that makes this spell an absolute boss-killer.