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borg286 08-11-07, 08:20 PM	I'm searching for spells that would be awesome for someone who got to abjurant champion 5 and then never went back to increasing his wizard level but only his BAB which determines his caster level. Obviously spells that have a high max and low spell level would be optimal. Also higher level spells would be hard to get to, me I will be topping off at level 5 spells. Abjuration school is very much welcome as the ABJURANT champion gives some nice buffs to that school. For the sake of simplicity let's assume that the DM made the champ buff mage armor also so there will be no arguments about that. I know this has very little to do with this thread, but I don't want useless bickering about small rules. magic missile (1) is an obvious candidate as it's max is 5(1d4+1) chain lightning (6) max is 20d6 cone of cold (5) max 15d6 disintegrate (6) 2d6/CL, max 40d6 dispel magic(3) erase (1) gets better with a high CL fire trap(4) 1d4+CL, max 20 fireball(3) max 10 ghost sound (0) 4 voices/CL, max 20 voices jump (1) depends on CL Leomund’s Secret Chest (5) gets batter with CL Lightning Bolt (3) 1d6/CL, max 10 Magic Mouth (2) 15'/CL, no max Melf’s Acid Arrow (2) 2d6/round/3 caster levels, max CL=18 Phantom Steed (3) gets better with CL polymorph (4) target's HD becomes <= your CL Protection from Arrows(2) protects 10 pts/CL, max 100 pts total scrying (4) better chance to forward other spells through sensor shatter(2) 10lbs/CL Shocking Grasp (1) 1d6/CL, max 5 Stoneskin (4) DR 10/Adamantite, prevents 10pts/CL total Symbol of bla (X) lasts longer with CL Telekinesis (5) better with CL Teleport(5) 100 mi/CL Tenser’s Floating Disk(1) 100 lbs/CL Vampiric Touch(3) suck 1d6/2CL, max 10d6 Wall of Fire(4) 2d6+1/CL, max 20 Wall of ice(4) 2d6+1/CL, max 20 what are some other candidates? Staying near low levels would be optimal.
archerpwr 08-11-07, 08:28 PM	Any reason why said character wouldnt take another gish prestige class?
borg286 08-11-07, 08:49 PM	Any reason why said character wouldnt take another gish prestige class? Perhaps there are other PrC that interest him, or that gish PrCs don't offer him what he wants. Whatever the reason, What spells rely on Caster level instead of wizard level? Preferably those without caps or caps around 16.
archerpwr 08-11-07, 08:53 PM	Perhaps there are other PrC that interest him, or that gish PrCs don't offer him what he wants. Whatever the reason, What spellsrely on Caster level instead of wizard level? Preferably those without caps. So purely theoretical? Only uncapped spell I know (and I know quite a few) is maw of chaos (SC), but that's a level 9 spell. Almost everything caps for effect. Durations OTOH are almost always uncapped, but 20 rounds vs 7 rounds isn't all that useful most of the time.
Osedox 08-12-07, 03:30 PM	Heart of Air/Earth/Fire/Water(Comp Mage) are some of the best Gish spells. If your a sorcerer then Wings of Cover(Races of Dragon) and Ruin Delver's Fortune(SC) are must haves. Greater Magic Weapon is good for Wizard Gish, because you dont have to waste a spell known on it, but you can save allot of money on your primary weapon. Obviously spells like True Strike and Wraithstrike (SC) are must haves.