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Sanosuke Sagare 02-06-04, 04:39 PM	I was in a campaign a while back, we were playing a mix of Dragonstar and D & D, when we stumbled upon a Dragon in the dungeon we were demolishing. (It was a late night campaign, you know how silly those can get.) We had a Wizard, a Cleric, and about six more combat oriented classes. The cleric gets the idea to cast Blade Barrier against the Dragon, but did not want it to affect the characters that were engaged in close combat with the thing. We had the Dragon backed up against a wall, so casting on the other side was not an option. Casting in front or in back was not an option, because we had it backed into a corner, and we were fighting it on the remaing two sides. Our Cleric decides that he is going to cast it above the Dragon, but on a vertical axis, like a giant buzzsaw. The Dragon took damage and moved, so he cast another one. The Dragon couldn't go anywhere but back into the first spell. We killed this thing in 5 rounds. That was cool.
tarkin 02-06-04, 04:43 PM	If you evoke the barrier so that it appears where creatures are, each creature takes damage as if passing through the wall. Each such creature can avoid the wall (ending up on the side of its choice) and thus take no damage by making a successful Reflex save. So basically you forgot to give the dragon his reflex save to negate all damage and take a free movement out from under it. (and probably forgot about any SR as well).
Seeker95 02-06-04, 04:45 PM	Your DM was kind. 1. A dragon is smart enough to avoid letting himself get backed into a corner. 2. The easiest way out of the situation is through your party. 3. Most dragons can cast spells, and what sorcerous dragon won't have dispel magic? 4. A dragon would have had you dead before you ever got in range to cast blade barrier. 5. Read the description of blade barrier again, and look for the flaw in how your DM let you use it. Again, your DM was being kind. I'd blame it on the late hour.
Sanosuke Sagare 02-06-04, 04:56 PM	Perhaps I should explain a bit. We ourselves were wondering about the non-use of magic by this Dragon. It turns out, this thing was Dragon in name and Appearance only, no more than a Huge, reptile. And it failed it's saves.:)
Sproik 02-06-04, 05:12 PM	Originally posted by Seeker95 Your DM was kind. 1. A dragon is smart enough to avoid letting himself get backed into a corner. 2. The easiest way out of the situation is through your party. 3. Most dragons can cast spells, and what sorcerous dragon won't have dispel magic? 4. A dragon would have had you dead before you ever got in range to cast blade barrier. 5. Read the description of blade barrier again, and look for the flaw in how your DM let you use it. Again, your DM was being kind. I'd blame it on the late hour. :D 1. Not necessarily. There are plenty of dragons with average intelligence, and even really smart people sometimes make mistakes. 2. Yep. It's not like they're going to hold it at bay... 3. True, true. But that wastes an action - I'd prefer option 2. 4. Absolute nonsense! This makes far too many presumptions - there are plenty of occasions in which D+D parties defeat dragons. I mean, just look at the name of the game! And most characters have to get very close to the dragon to kill it... 5. Yep. I love to disagree...