Bigby's Spells [Archive] - Wizards Community

Bigby's Spells [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
LadyCirra
04-08-08, 12:57 PM If one has immunity to mind-affecting spells, does or should that make one immune to any Bigby's spell?
Makuya
04-08-08, 01:00 PM Those two are exclusive to one another, dear madam.
Seeker95
04-08-08, 01:11 PM I do not see [mind-affecting] attached to any Bigby spell.
What prompts your question?
LadyCirra
04-08-08, 01:32 PM I play NeverWinter Nights. When someone casts a Bigby's on another that has immunity to mind-affecting spells, the player receives a message stating that the victim is immune to mind-affecting spells....and the spell fails.
Makuya
04-08-08, 01:47 PM Must be a software bug.
Salla
04-08-08, 01:49 PM Must be a software bug.

Or programmer error. But at any rate, I'm not aware of any Mind-Affecting Bigby's spells either.
LadyCirra
04-08-08, 02:13 PM That's what I thought. They are listed under evocation spells, which produce something from nothing. That doesn't sound like mind-affecting to me.

Thanks!
Fireclave
04-08-08, 02:14 PM Or programmer error.
Or a design issue. The thing you have to keep in mind is that NWN is "almost D&D." It does a pretty good job at simulating the D&D experience (imo), but due to the nature of the PC environment, some aspects of the game will simply have to be changed, simplified, and/or modified to make the game a reality.

Most likely, since in NWN Bigby's Hand spells tend to duplicate some paralytic spell effects iirc, Bigby's Hand is probably either running on the same internal mechanic as Hold Person and Hold Monster or that paralytic effects are treated as mind-affecting by default.
Salla
04-08-08, 02:26 PM Or a design issue. The thing you have to keep in mind is that NWN is "almost D&D." It does a pretty good job at simulating the D&D experience (imo), but due to the nature of the PC environment, some aspects of the game will simply have to be changed, simplified, and/or modified to make the game a reality.

Most likely, since in NWN Bigby's Hand spells tend to duplicate some paralytic spell effects iirc, Bigby's Hand is probably either running on the same internal mechanic as Hold Person and Hold Monster or that paralytic effects are treated as mind-affecting by default.

Well, I've never played the game, so I can't dispute anything you say there. Makes as much sense as anything else ... actually, probably more sense.
LimaBeanMage
04-08-08, 04:45 PM Yes, in NwN some of the bigby's spells work through paralysis, stun, or daze. Though, only clenched fist, which stuns, should be subject to immunities. The others have been patched to bypass paralysis immunity.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
LadyCirra 04-08-08, 12:57 PM	If one has immunity to mind-affecting spells, does or should that make one immune to any Bigby's spell?
Makuya 04-08-08, 01:00 PM	Those two are exclusive to one another, dear madam.
Seeker95 04-08-08, 01:11 PM	I do not see [mind-affecting] attached to any Bigby spell. What prompts your question?
LadyCirra 04-08-08, 01:32 PM	I play NeverWinter Nights. When someone casts a Bigby's on another that has immunity to mind-affecting spells, the player receives a message stating that the victim is immune to mind-affecting spells....and the spell fails.
Makuya 04-08-08, 01:47 PM	Must be a software bug.
Salla 04-08-08, 01:49 PM	Must be a software bug. Or programmer error. But at any rate, I'm not aware of any Mind-Affecting Bigby's spells either.
LadyCirra 04-08-08, 02:13 PM	That's what I thought. They are listed under evocation spells, which produce something from nothing. That doesn't sound like mind-affecting to me. Thanks!
Fireclave 04-08-08, 02:14 PM	Or programmer error. Or a design issue. The thing you have to keep in mind is that NWN is "almost D&D." It does a pretty good job at simulating the D&D experience (imo), but due to the nature of the PC environment, some aspects of the game will simply have to be changed, simplified, and/or modified to make the game a reality. Most likely, since in NWN Bigby's Hand spells tend to duplicate some paralytic spell effects iirc, Bigby's Hand is probably either running on the same internal mechanic as Hold Person and Hold Monster or that paralytic effects are treated as mind-affecting by default.
Salla 04-08-08, 02:26 PM	Or a design issue. The thing you have to keep in mind is that NWN is "almost D&D." It does a pretty good job at simulating the D&D experience (imo), but due to the nature of the PC environment, some aspects of the game will simply have to be changed, simplified, and/or modified to make the game a reality. Most likely, since in NWN Bigby's Hand spells tend to duplicate some paralytic spell effects iirc, Bigby's Hand is probably either running on the same internal mechanic as Hold Person and Hold Monster or that paralytic effects are treated as mind-affecting by default. Well, I've never played the game, so I can't dispute anything you say there. Makes as much sense as anything else ... actually, probably more sense.
LimaBeanMage 04-08-08, 04:45 PM	Yes, in NwN some of the bigby's spells work through paralysis, stun, or daze. Though, only clenched fist, which stuns, should be subject to immunities. The others have been patched to bypass paralysis immunity.