Bite of the ... [Archive] - Wizards Community

Bite of the ... [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Endalos
04-20-07, 12:44 AM I was wondering if one could cast this while in wild shape form as I have seen nothing so far stating it cannot (although I am pretty sure my DM would disallow it anyway)
Merestil Haye
04-20-07, 04:45 AM You cannot cast while wildshaped, unless you have the Natural Spell feat. If you do, there is no barrier to you casting these spells.

Your DM is quite able to houserule them out, but it is a houserule.
tarkin
04-20-07, 11:33 AM Note any spell that changes your shape will most likely cause you to give up benefits from your existing shape.

That is if you are a bird and shapechange to a human, you can not fly.

This means that certain of the bonuses from the Bite of the X spells overlap instead of stacking with existing things your Wildshaped character has.

For example Bite of the Wereboar has enhancements bonuses to several stats. That will stack with your existing stats for the wildshape animal, but not with any of the spells/magic items that enhance stats.

However, your Natural Armor is set by the spell, not an enhancement. It will not stack with the existing natural armor of the creature you wildshaped into, and may even DROP.

The 25% spell failure chance still applies even if you have the feat Natural Spell, but still spell will of course negate it.

You use the Bear claw and bite damage, adjusted only for your size, even if your wildshaped creatures bite/claw was greater.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Endalos 04-20-07, 12:44 AM	I was wondering if one could cast this while in wild shape form as I have seen nothing so far stating it cannot (although I am pretty sure my DM would disallow it anyway)
Merestil Haye 04-20-07, 04:45 AM	You cannot cast while wildshaped, unless you have the Natural Spell feat. If you do, there is no barrier to you casting these spells. Your DM is quite able to houserule them out, but it is a houserule.
tarkin 04-20-07, 11:33 AM	Note any spell that changes your shape will most likely cause you to give up benefits from your existing shape. That is if you are a bird and shapechange to a human, you can not fly. This means that certain of the bonuses from the Bite of the X spells overlap instead of stacking with existing things your Wildshaped character has. For example Bite of the Wereboar has enhancements bonuses to several stats. That will stack with your existing stats for the wildshape animal, but not with any of the spells/magic items that enhance stats. However, your Natural Armor is set by the spell, not an enhancement. It will not stack with the existing natural armor of the creature you wildshaped into, and may even DROP. The 25% spell failure chance still applies even if you have the feat Natural Spell, but still spell will of course negate it. You use the Bear claw and bite damage, adjusted only for your size, even if your wildshaped creatures bite/claw was greater.