Post/Author/DateTime	Post
JadeSpider9643 08-07-06, 10:06 PM	I was browsing thru my Complete Arcane's spells section, and stumbled apon Sword of Darkness, by all reasonable accounts it's an awesome spell, able to inflict lots and lots of negative levels on your enemies. But then I read the last part...if the sword strikes an undead creature, it grants that creature 5 temporary hit points per two caster levels( maximum 25 temporary hit pioints) that last for up to 1 hour I was thinking this was just frosting on the cake for healing my undead minions on the side. My train of thought went something like this.... 1 - Hey cool! it can heal my undead minions too! 2 - I wonder how much it can heal them? 3 - *reads* maximum 25 temp hit points, not bad i guess 4 - I wonder what the minimum would be 5 - lets see, 5 hp per 2 caster levels, 7th level spell... 6 - Cool, minimum 30 temp hit points per hit 7 - wait a sec, arn't maximum's usually higher than the minimums? 8 - The scalable healing properties of this spell are maxed out even before I could ever cast it.......LAME 9 - at least it still inflicts negative levels... is it just me or is that seriously messed up?
Tsuul 08-08-06, 02:52 AM	Overly complicated for always giving 25 temp HPs. It probably gave more [as a max] at some point, then got readjusted downward.
TheGogmagog 08-08-06, 10:39 AM	3 - *reads* maximum 25 temp hit points, not bad i guess is it just me or is that seriously messed up?Not seriously messed up. So they could have just said it grants 25 temporary hitpoints. It's no less effective than if they worded it properly. If you have pre-combat time, you can go around attacking your undead allies with this, then in combat chose between keeping thier temp hitpoints at max or imposing negative levels on your foes. Of course the duration is one round per level, and you will need to carry a lot of swords around, and probably a large stone. Retrieving spell components is considered part of the casting of the spell unless the components are elaborate or unwieldy (paraphasing). I would guess if you need to provide your own stone to shatter the sword on, that might be another action to retrieve out of a bag of holding.
JadeSpider9643 08-08-06, 08:22 PM	that's another point.....how much str does it take to shatter forged steal aganist stone? and how many mages could actually DO that? I herby declare this spell physically uncastable! ......for most people.
Raymond_Luxury_Yacht 08-08-06, 10:56 PM	that's another point.....how much str does it take to shatter forged steal aganist stone? and how many mages could actually DO that? Not much.
shift244 08-09-06, 02:58 AM	Not much Strength needed? Or not much, as in many, mages can do it? The shattering part is just fluff. The spell casting weakens the weapon used as a component so much so that the caster needs only spend a little effort in striking to make it happen. I know, I've tried it. :D