Black Tentacles Spell [Archive] - Wizards Community

Black Tentacles Spell [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Inyotef
01-19-07, 09:36 PM Does the Black Tentacles spell start causing bludgeoning damage immediately if a grapple check is successful or does it only occur on subsequent rounds after casting? It's not very clear in the spell description:

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/blackTentacles.htm
SageBahamut
01-20-07, 12:35 AM IIRC, dealing damage during a grapple is an Attack.
It has a BAB equal to your caster level.
Thus, if your caster level would grant it iterative attacks (if you were a Fighter, that is) then I would say it can deal damage the same round.

Either way it's an amazing... 1d6+4 damage? You're not missing out on a lot if I get shot down on this one.
Vegepygmy
01-20-07, 01:03 AM IIRC, dealing damage during a grapple is an Attack.
It has a BAB equal to your caster level.
Thus, if your caster level would grant it iterative attacks (if you were a Fighter, that is) then I would say it can deal damage the same round.I don't think the tentacles get iterative attacks, regardless of your BAB. The spell says:

Once the tentacles grapple an opponent, they may make a grapple check each round on your turn to deal 1d6+4 points of bludgeoning damage.

If the spell said "may make grapple checks each round," the tentacles would get iterative attacks.

Also, there is no need for iterative attacks on the first round of the spell. The tentacles grapple the target. When you successfully start a grapple, you deal damage.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Inyotef 01-19-07, 09:36 PM	Does the Black Tentacles spell start causing bludgeoning damage immediately if a grapple check is successful or does it only occur on subsequent rounds after casting? It's not very clear in the spell description: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/blackTentacles.htm
SageBahamut 01-20-07, 12:35 AM	IIRC, dealing damage during a grapple is an Attack. It has a BAB equal to your caster level. Thus, if your caster level would grant it iterative attacks (if you were a Fighter, that is) then I would say it can deal damage the same round. Either way it's an amazing... 1d6+4 damage? You're not missing out on a lot if I get shot down on this one.
Vegepygmy 01-20-07, 01:03 AM	IIRC, dealing damage during a grapple is an Attack. It has a BAB equal to your caster level. Thus, if your caster level would grant it iterative attacks (if you were a Fighter, that is) then I would say it can deal damage the same round.I don't think the tentacles get iterative attacks, regardless of your BAB. The spell says: Once the tentacles grapple an opponent, they may make a grapple check each round on your turn to deal 1d6+4 points of bludgeoning damage. If the spell said "may make grapple checks each round," the tentacles would get iterative attacks. Also, there is no need for iterative attacks on the first round of the spell. The tentacles grapple the target. When you successfully start a grapple, you deal damage.