Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Goofy 04-14-05, 06:04 AM	Hi, does anyone know how much a pair of Boots of Expeditious Retreat would cost if available?? Activated... say 10 non-consecutive minutes per day as a free action... (Or a total of 5 minutes switched on and of as a free action..) Goofy
Will Brandiman 04-14-05, 06:44 AM	The 3.0 version of Boots and Striding and Springing doubled your base move and gave you a +10 bonus on your Jump skill for 6000gp. I see they've been hit with the nerf bat in 3.5 though and now just give the equivalent of Longstrider with a +5 bonus to Jump skill for 5500gp. Personally I'd allow the 3.0 version to be used for the same cost.
DarkWarriorKarg 04-14-05, 07:02 AM	3500 GP. Level 1 x CL1 x2000 gp x1.5 (spell has 1 minute/level) (use activated), continuous If you feel like adding in a jump bonus +5 bonus= +2500 gp +10 bonus = +10000 gp Hence why they were nerfed for 3.5: In order to follow the creation rules. So the 3.0 boots (double move and +10 jump) would be worth 13500 gp.
Kessalin Talira 04-14-05, 07:16 AM	A couple of things... First: 2,000 * 1.5 = 3,000, not 3,500. Second: Duration of minutes/level is *2, not *1.5. By the book, they would be 4,000 gp. They're WORTH considerably more than that, however, when you take into account the fact that +30' speed gives you a +12 bonus to jump checks. In the campaign I run, and the one that a friend DM's, Boots of Expeditious Retreat cost 12,000 gp a pair, and they still get bought about as often as Heward's Handy Haversacks. EDIT: That's 12,000 gp for use activated boots, so they're always on.
Enaloindir 04-14-05, 08:19 AM	I reverse-engineered boots of movement from the 3.5 boots of striding and springing: - Cost of the jump bonus = 2,500 gp - If the movement bonus would be more expensive than the skill bonus, the skill would cost 2,500 x 1.5 = 3,750 gp, leaving 5,500-3,750 = 1,750 gp for the movement. Therefore, the movement bonus must be less expensive than the skill bonus. - Because the movement bonus is cheaper than the skill bonus, the remaining 3,000 value of the boots is the movement cost multiplied by 1.5, so the movement cost 2,000 gp. - Going back to the quadratic formula used for all magic items (constant x bonus^2) yields C x 10^2 = 2,000, or C = 20. The pricing formula for movement enhancement is therfore 20 x bonus^2. Look at normal movement enhancing spells, they never give a movement boost highre than +30'. Thus, three different types of magic boots can be introduced: - Lesser boots of movement: +10' enhancement to land speed, 2,000 gp - Boots of movement: +20' enhancement to land speed: 8,000 gp - Greater boots of movement: +30' enhancement to land speed: 18,000 gp Looking at the boots of speed, which grant more bonuses but for a shorter period of time, the price seems to be right... Enaloindir