Boots of Surefoot [Archive] - Wizards Community

Boots of Surefoot [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Tetsubo
09-29-06, 08:53 AM I've been working my way (slowly) through the Spell Compendium. I read the spell Surefoot this morning and it got me thinking... It's a Ranger 1 spell, 10 min/level and it grants a +10 bonus to Balance, Climb, Jump and Tumble. You also do not lose your DX bonus to AC when balancing or climbing. So, how much would a pair of boots with this spell on them cost?
Fruscht
09-29-06, 09:24 AM It would cost quite a lot.
The guidelines for pricing skill bonuses are: square(skill bonus) x 100 gp. So, just a +10 bonus on Balance would cost 10x10 x 100 gp = 10000 gp, or 5000 gp to craft. Plus you'll have to add all the other skills, plus multiple abbilities on one item cost more than the sum of single abilities. Plus you'll have to set the price for not losing your Dex bonus to AC when balancing or climbing.
Anyway, it won't cost caster_level x spell_level x 2000 x 1.5 (because it has a duration of 10 min/lev).
Puca
09-29-06, 10:35 AM Its actually surprisingly not expensive.

If you take the bonuses to those four skills as being "similar abilities," you get 27,500.

10,000 for Tumble +10: (100*10^2)
7,500 for Balance +10: (100*10^2) *0.75
5,000 for Climb +10: (100*10^2) *0.5
5,000 for Jump +10: (100*10^2) *0.5

I think Ive followed that correctly, but it is cheap for what youd get. Too cheap. If you use the formula for multiple different abilities you get 55,000 gp:

10,000 for Tumble +10: (100*10^2)
7,500 for Balance +10: (100*10^2) *1.5
5,000 for Climb +10: (100*10^2) *1.5
5,000 for Jump +10: (100*10^2) *1.5

That seems more reasonable to me, a little on the high end, but still a good value. Its high enough though that Id feel fine throwing in the retaining-your-dex for free.
risner
09-29-06, 10:46 AM I've been working my way (slowly) through the Spell Compendium. I read the spell Surefoot this morning and it got me thinking... It's a Ranger 1 spell, 10 min/level and it grants a +10 bonus to Balance, Climb, Jump and Tumble. You also do not lose your DX bonus to AC when balancing or climbing. So, how much would a pair of boots with this spell on them cost?

10*10*100 + 10*10*100*1.5 + 10*10*100*1.5 + 10*10*100*1.5 + some value for the "don't lose DEX bonus when balancing or climbing" which I put at 2,000 gp

So total
57,000 gp

four skills as being "similar abilities
Can't do that unless you make them use charges and give the staff... er... boots a number of charges.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Tetsubo 09-29-06, 08:53 AM	I've been working my way (slowly) through the Spell Compendium. I read the spell Surefoot this morning and it got me thinking... It's a Ranger 1 spell, 10 min/level and it grants a +10 bonus to Balance, Climb, Jump and Tumble. You also do not lose your DX bonus to AC when balancing or climbing. So, how much would a pair of boots with this spell on them cost?
Fruscht 09-29-06, 09:24 AM	It would cost quite a lot. The guidelines for pricing skill bonuses are: square(skill bonus) x 100 gp. So, just a +10 bonus on Balance would cost 10x10 x 100 gp = 10000 gp, or 5000 gp to craft. Plus you'll have to add all the other skills, plus multiple abbilities on one item cost more than the sum of single abilities. Plus you'll have to set the price for not losing your Dex bonus to AC when balancing or climbing. Anyway, it won't cost caster_level x spell_level x 2000 x 1.5 (because it has a duration of 10 min/lev).
Puca 09-29-06, 10:35 AM	Its actually surprisingly not expensive. If you take the bonuses to those four skills as being "similar abilities," you get 27,500. 10,000 for Tumble +10: (10010^2) 7,500 for Balance +10: (10010^2) 0.75 5,000 for Climb +10: (10010^2) 0.5 5,000 for Jump +10: (10010^2) 0.5 I think Ive followed that correctly, but it is cheap for what youd get. Too cheap. If you use the formula for multiple different abilities you get 55,000 gp: 10,000 for Tumble +10: (10010^2) 7,500 for Balance +10: (10010^2) 1.5 5,000 for Climb +10: (10010^2) 1.5 5,000 for Jump +10: (10010^2) 1.5 That seems more reasonable to me, a little on the high end, but still a good value. Its high enough though that Id feel fine throwing in the retaining-your-dex for free.
risner 09-29-06, 10:46 AM	I've been working my way (slowly) through the Spell Compendium. I read the spell Surefoot this morning and it got me thinking... It's a Ranger 1 spell, 10 min/level and it grants a +10 bonus to Balance, Climb, Jump and Tumble. You also do not lose your DX bonus to AC when balancing or climbing. So, how much would a pair of boots with this spell on them cost? 1010100 + 10101001.5 + 10101001.5 + 1010100*1.5 + some value for the "don't lose DEX bonus when balancing or climbing" which I put at 2,000 gp So total 57,000 gp four skills as being "similar abilities Can't do that unless you make them use charges and give the staff... er... boots a number of charges.