Bow of true strike [Archive] - Wizards Community

Bow of true strike [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Balsinor
02-01-04, 08:23 PM I am trying to make a magical item and I am not sure of the rules or if it is possible. I am trying to construct a "bow of true strike" If you can shed any light on this matter, please reply. Thank you. Bal.
da chicken
02-01-04, 08:30 PM See Bow of True Arrows, p76 of Sword & Fist.
ksbsnowowl
02-01-04, 09:48 PM IIRC, it can also be found in Masters of the Wild.
BlaineTog
02-01-04, 09:54 PM Mine:

The Bow of TrueShot
This bow appears to be an ordinary masterwork composite longbow [note: insert any masterwork bow you like]. However, it has a greater power. The bow can cast the spell truestrike with a command word from its owner. However, the spell only pertains to the next arrow shot fro mthe bow, but no later than the round following the round when the command word was spoken.
Light Transumtion, CL 3, Craft Wondrous Items, truestrike; 2,200 gp.

Now, whether or not that's broken or not is another matter, one which I cannot answer (but I;m sure others will).
RLWilde
02-01-04, 10:15 PM IIRC, that's almost the same as the Bow from Master of the Wilds... you use Command Word activation where MotW uses Spell Trigger.

I wouldn't call it overpowered (since Command Word still takes a standard action), but you may want to up the price a little bit.
BlaineTog
02-01-04, 10:19 PM Originally posted by RLWilde
IIRC, that's almost the same as the Bow from Master of the Wilds... you use Command Word activation where MotW uses Spell Trigger.The idea of MotW's bow is to make it so that this can't get into the hands of a nonspellcaster (ie teh Fighter).

I wouldn't call it overpowered (since Command Word still takes a standard action), but you may want to up the price a little bit. That price is *technically* correct (using the guidlines). Then again, an amulet of CLW on command is only 9,000 gp (1d8+5), and an amulet of Cure Minor Wounds on command is 900 gp.
Ertai Planeswalker
02-02-04, 02:47 AM about BlaineTog's bow:
IIRC, it costs 4500 Gp in S&F, and why does yours radiate transmutation when True Strike is a divination spell?
Heron_Marked_Blade
02-02-04, 06:33 AM Part of the reason the Bow of True Arrows is priced the way it is is because it's a Spell Completion item. I.e. it's limited to Sorcerers and Wizards who have true strike on their spell list. The bow's power/usefulness becomes exponentially more useful when it's a Command Word activation, because that means anyone can use it.

I suggest keeping it as a spell trigger item. Otherwise you have a weapon that grants you a +20 attack every other round. Think about that power when pricing it, instead of using the "it's only a 1st-level spell" rationale.
Everach
02-02-04, 12:20 PM Originally posted by Balsinor
I am trying to make a magical item and I am not sure of the rules or if it is possible. I am trying to construct a "bow of true strike" If you can shed any light on this matter, please reply. Thank you. Bal.

Keep in mind this bow takes a standard action to activate true stike. It's not a +20 to hit all the time. Reason why can be found here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?threadid=161526) .

As long as it takes a standard action (which means a single +20 attack every other round), it is a balanced item.
RLWilde
02-02-04, 02:00 PM Originally posted by BlaineTog
That price is *technically* correct (using the guidlines). Then again, an amulet of CLW on command is only 9,000 gp (1d8+5), and an amulet of Cure Minor Wounds on command is 900 gp.
That's why they're "guidelines"... so the DM can modify the prices if appropriate. ;)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Balsinor 02-01-04, 08:23 PM	I am trying to make a magical item and I am not sure of the rules or if it is possible. I am trying to construct a "bow of true strike" If you can shed any light on this matter, please reply. Thank you. Bal.
da chicken 02-01-04, 08:30 PM	See Bow of True Arrows, p76 of Sword & Fist.
ksbsnowowl 02-01-04, 09:48 PM	IIRC, it can also be found in Masters of the Wild.
BlaineTog 02-01-04, 09:54 PM	Mine: The Bow of TrueShot This bow appears to be an ordinary masterwork composite longbow [note: insert any masterwork bow you like]. However, it has a greater power. The bow can cast the spell truestrike with a command word from its owner. However, the spell only pertains to the next arrow shot fro mthe bow, but no later than the round following the round when the command word was spoken. Light Transumtion, CL 3, Craft Wondrous Items, truestrike; 2,200 gp. Now, whether or not that's broken or not is another matter, one which I cannot answer (but I;m sure others will).
RLWilde 02-01-04, 10:15 PM	IIRC, that's almost the same as the Bow from Master of the Wilds... you use Command Word activation where MotW uses Spell Trigger. I wouldn't call it overpowered (since Command Word still takes a standard action), but you may want to up the price a little bit.
BlaineTog 02-01-04, 10:19 PM	Originally posted by RLWilde IIRC, that's almost the same as the Bow from Master of the Wilds... you use Command Word activation where MotW uses Spell Trigger.The idea of MotW's bow is to make it so that this can't get into the hands of a nonspellcaster (ie teh Fighter). I wouldn't call it overpowered (since Command Word still takes a standard action), but you may want to up the price a little bit. That price is technically correct (using the guidlines). Then again, an amulet of CLW on command is only 9,000 gp (1d8+5), and an amulet of Cure Minor Wounds on command is 900 gp.
Ertai Planeswalker 02-02-04, 02:47 AM	about BlaineTog's bow: IIRC, it costs 4500 Gp in S&F, and why does yours radiate transmutation when True Strike is a divination spell?
Heron_Marked_Blade 02-02-04, 06:33 AM	Part of the reason the Bow of True Arrows is priced the way it is is because it's a Spell Completion item. I.e. it's limited to Sorcerers and Wizards who have true strike on their spell list. The bow's power/usefulness becomes exponentially more useful when it's a Command Word activation, because that means anyone can use it. I suggest keeping it as a spell trigger item. Otherwise you have a weapon that grants you a +20 attack every other round. Think about that power when pricing it, instead of using the "it's only a 1st-level spell" rationale.
Everach 02-02-04, 12:20 PM	Originally posted by Balsinor I am trying to make a magical item and I am not sure of the rules or if it is possible. I am trying to construct a "bow of true strike" If you can shed any light on this matter, please reply. Thank you. Bal. Keep in mind this bow takes a standard action to activate true stike. It's not a +20 to hit all the time. Reason why can be found here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?threadid=161526) . As long as it takes a standard action (which means a single +20 attack every other round), it is a balanced item.
RLWilde 02-02-04, 02:00 PM	Originally posted by BlaineTog That price is technically correct (using the guidlines). Then again, an amulet of CLW on command is only 9,000 gp (1d8+5), and an amulet of Cure Minor Wounds on command is 900 gp. That's why they're "guidelines"... so the DM can modify the prices if appropriate. ;)