Post/Author/DateTime	Post
MagicMaster777 06-25-05, 10:47 PM	Bracers of Combat: These bracers, when worn, grant a +4 bonus to all unarmed attacks, and a +2 bonus to all claw and bite attacks. What do you think?
Jaid 06-25-05, 11:04 PM	1) what kind of bonus? (currently unnamed. that's gonna be expensive). 2) what is the bonus to? attack roll, or damage?
MagicMaster777 06-25-05, 11:08 PM	the bonus is to the attack roll. As for type of bonus. not familiar with all of the types of bonuses
Jaid 06-26-05, 12:17 AM	well, there's insight, competence, and enhancement, which would normally be things i would consider for this. most likely enhancement, since that seems to be most frequently used for this type of enchantment. there's also circumstance, profane, sacred, luck, and probably a few others i missed that wouldn't really make sense for this item. so, i would say enhancement is your best bet. the bad news is this.... it's probably gonna come out rather expensive. not sure how expensive though... there are people better at that than i, i'll let them figure it out, because i'm not sure how to attack this problem, being only a bonus to hit...
RavenDrake 06-26-05, 05:01 AM	Not too bad. Assuming Enhancement bonus to attack rolls... It's: Bonus Squared x 1000 GP... so +4 Unarmed = 16000gp +2 Natural Weapons = 4000gp. Similar abilities, so no extra cost... So we've got: Bracers of Striking: These hardend leather bracers, decorated with buckles and studs, add a +4 enhancement bonus to unarmed attack rolls made with them. Additionally, they add a +2 enhancement bonus to attack rolls made by natural weapons. Moderate Transumtation, CL 12th. Craft Wonderous Item. 20,000GP; Weight: 1lbs Give or take... someone may want to go back and doublecheck my math on this one....
MagicMaster777 06-26-05, 11:19 PM	sounds pretty good to me. but personally, I would keep the name "Bracers of Combat". I've always been a fan of Mortal Kombat. I thought of this item the other day when I was watching the Mortal Kombat movie. They were fighting more than using their powers; plus i've always been a fan of Martial arts
RavenDrake 06-27-05, 03:30 AM	Sorry about the namechange. I got ahead of myself... Feel free to use whatever name you want.
MagicMaster777 06-27-05, 09:12 AM	yea. you can also use whatever name you want. like i said i got the idea the other day watching Mortal Kombat so...
Merestil Haye 06-27-05, 09:58 AM	A couple of things. Firstly, and most problematically, attacks with claws, bites and other natural weapons are unarmed attacks. The SRD says so here."Armed" Unarmed Attacks Sometimes a character’s or creature’s unarmed attack counts as an armed attack. A monk, a character with the Improved Unarmed Strike feat, a spellcaster delivering a touch attack spell, and a creature with natural physical weapons all count as being armed. You have three basic options at the moment, assuming you are going with the enhancement bonus :-Leave as written, in which case the second power will do nothing, and you might as well dump it. Change the second bonus to another type, such as luck or insight. There is no listed price adjustment for non-enhancement bonuses to attack rolls, but since non-armour / non-shield AC bonuses are double the cost of armour or shield bonuses that seems a reasonable factor. Modify the wording so that claw and bite attacks get +6 bonuses. It is arguable that this would make the bracers an epic item; unconditional enhancement bonuses to attack of over +5 are epic territory by the rules. That would stick a zero on the cost.Secondly, bonuses to attacks cost twice the equivalent bonuses to defence. Since you are getting bonuses to attack but not damage, it can be argued that getting half the effect justifies paying half the cost though. Assuming you take the second option as being closest to the effect you want, we have :- +4 enhancement bonus to hit for all unarmed attacks : 4^2 * 1,000 = 16,000 (halved due to applying only to attack rolls) +2 luck bonus to hit for claw and bite attacks : 2^2 * 2,000gp * 1.5 (multiple abilities on a body-slot item) = 12,000gp (again halved due to applying only to attack rolls) No uncustomary space limitation. Total : 32,000gp Bracers of Combat. These bracers grant a +4 enhancement bonus to all unarmed attack rolls made by the wearer. They also grant a +2 luck bonus to all claw and bite attacks made by the wearer. Auras : Strong Transmutation, Moderate Transmutation. CL : 12th. Prerequisites : Craft Magic Arms and Armour, Magic Fang, caster level must be at least three times the attack bonus provided by the item. Market price : 32,000gp. Cost to create : 16,000gp + 1,280xp.