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Bringing back Emotion [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Vaalingrade Ashland
06-29-05, 03:24 PM Hi all, I want to ressurect and expand on the 3e spell emotion.

First order of buisness, though is does anyone have easier access to the 3e SRD than I do and can post the spell?
Zherog
06-29-05, 03:38 PM Here ya go, Vaal.

Emotion
Enchantment (Compulsion) [Mind-Affecting]
Level: Brd 3, Sor/Wiz 4
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 action
Range: Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)
Targets: All living creatures within a 15-ft. radius
Duration: Concentration
Saving Throw: Will negates
Spell Resistance: Yes

This spell arouses a single emotion of the character's choice in the subjects. The character can choose any one of the following versions:

Despair: The enchanted creatures suffer a –2 morale penalty to saving throws, attack rolls, ability checks, skill checks, and weapon damage rolls. Emotion (despair) dispels emotion (hope).

Fear: The enchanted creatures flee from the character whenever they are in sight of the character. Emotion (fear) dispels emotion (rage).

Friendship: The enchanted creatures react more positively toward others. Their attitude shifts to the next more favorable reaction (hostile to unfriendly, unfriendly to indifferent, indifferent to friendly, or friendly to helpful). Creatures involved in combat, however, continue to fight back normally. Emotion (friendship) dispels emotion (hate).

Hate: The enchanted creatures react more negatively toward others. Their attitude shifts to the next less favorable reaction (helpful to friendly, friendly to indifferent, indifferent to unfriendly, or unfriendly to hostile). Emotion (hate) dispels emotion (friendship).

Hope: The enchanted creatures gain a +2 morale bonus to saving throws, attack rolls, ability checks, skill checks, and weapon damage rolls. Emotion (hope) dispels emotion (despair).

Rage: The enchanted creatures gain a +2 morale bonus to Strength and Constitution scores, a +1 morale bonus on Will saves, and a –1 penalty to AC. They are compelled to fight heedless of danger. Emotion (rage) does not stack with barbarian rage or with itself. Emotion (rage) dispels emotion (fear).
krichaiushii
06-29-05, 03:45 PM Wasn't Emotion simply broken down into its component parts for 3.5?

What pairs of emotion are you thinking of adding, either to Emotion as a whole, or as individual spells?

BTW - Here (http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/) is a good link to all the SRDs.
Zherog
06-29-05, 03:48 PM While that site is indeed a good one, krichaiushii, I couldn't use it. The stupid :censored: :censored: :censored: web filters here at work block it. :bored:

And yes - emotion was broken down into six different spells in 3.5. It was a pretty big kick in the family jewels for sorcerers.
Vaalingrade Ashland
06-29-05, 03:52 PM Thanks Z, you're the man.

As for what's going on:

I want to bring Emotion as a single spell back (because frankly the whole point of splitting it up was because two people were still playing Sorcerers and Bards) and then adding higher and lower level versions, plus expanding on the emotions created.

For example, hunger, thirst, extasy, boredom, curiosity, avarice and confidence Will become lower or higher level emotions.
krichaiushii
06-29-05, 05:58 PM I think that hunger and thirst are more physical than emotional - though one would likely experience some other emotions while hungry and thirsty.

Here are some sites on emotion for you:

Emotion list 1 (http://www.abwag.com/emotions.htm)

Emotion list 2 (http://www.sff.net/people/julia.west/CALLIHOO/dtbb/emotions.htm) - the random generators linked to here are interesting, too.

Emotion list 3 (http://www.deepermind.com/02clarty.htm)
smrtgmp
06-29-05, 06:09 PM I dont like what was done to the multifunction spells either. I say put them all back in one piece.
ShadowWarrior
06-29-05, 07:48 PM Emo IX
Sor/Wiz 9
Enchantmet (mind-affecting)
Range: Medium
Target: One creature/level
Duration: 1 min/level
Effect: You can instill a single emotion in a target creature. You must choose an emotion from the following; despair, anger, joy, excitement, nervousness, greed, and lust. They will experience that emotion until the duration expires.
edit: It seems that people absolutely need to be told how each emotion works in order to get the power of this spell. So I'm going to add a list stating how (almost) each emotion works mechanically.
Despair: Target is unable to take any action and is considered prone and helpless.
Anger: Target is filled with an all consuming anger and they begin to attack the closest object or creature to them. +6 circumstance bonus on attack rolls and a -6 circumstance penalty to AC.
Joy: Target is incessantly cheerful gaining a +6 circumstance bonus on diplomacy checks while suffering(sp?) a -6 circumstance penalty on all bluff, forgery, and disguise checks.
Excitement: Target is rendered extremely excitable and hyperactive gaining a +6 circumstance bonus on initiative checks while taking a -6 circumstance penalty on all concentration and autohypnosis checks. (replace autohypnosis with profession if not using psionics)
Nervousness: Target has a complete nervous breakdown and is stricken with such dread that they are unable to take any action, even to defend themselves. The target is considered helpless for the duration. If they are attacked and survive (remember coup de grace), their condition reverts to panicked.
Greed: The target is filled with such avarice that they are incapable of considering others needs and will try to take valuables from anyone they have the opportunity to. The target gains a +6 circumstance bonus on all bluff and sleight of hand checks while taking a -6 circumstance penalty on all diplomacy, hide, listen, move silently, sense motive, and spot checks.
Lust: The target is filled with such lust that they act in a manner that is quite like an animal in heat.
Vaalingrade Ashland
06-29-05, 07:57 PM That's like... the weakest 9th level spell ever.

I'm working on my Emotion spell line; Inspire Emotion right now.

The basics:

Inspire I (1st level Bard, 2nd level Sor/Wiz) - inspires base emotions , but does not force the target to act on them.For example, you can make them feel fear, but it has no numeric effect.

Inspire II (3rd level Bard, 4th level Sor/Wiz) - Acts as Emotion with more modes

Inspire III (5th level Bard, 6th level Sor/Wiz) - Each mode creates and extreme, longer lasting reaction to the emotion (hate becomes murderous intent, friendship becomes love, hunger becomes ravenous intent, dispair becomes depression)
smrtgmp
06-29-05, 10:37 PM That's like... the weakest 9th level spell ever.

seriously
Vaalingrade Ashland
07-06-05, 07:08 PM Here they are, Mark I of the Inspire series:

Inspire Emotion I
Enchantment (Compulsion) [Mind-Affecting]
Level: Brd 1, Sor/Wiz 2
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 action
Range: Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)
Targets: All living creatures within a 15-ft. radius
Duration: Concentration
Saving Throw: Will negates
Spell Resistance: Yes

This spell a single, minor feeling or urge of the character's choice in the subjects. While the effected creature does not have to act on these feelings, they usually do, following the usual course of action they would if they genuinely had these feelings. The character can choose any one of the following versions:

Aggravation: The enchanted creatures become quite irritable and cavalier about their current situation. (aggravation) dispels (apprehension).

Amiable: The enchanted creatures feel more comfortable and friendly toward their fellow creature. (amiable) dispels (disdain).

Apprehension: The enchanted creatures experience a general bad feeling about their situation, as if misfortune is lurking just around the corner. (apprehension) dispels (aggravation).

Boredom: The enchanted creatures become unhappy with the low level of excitement in the current situation. (boredom) dispels (diverted).

Disdain: The enchanted creatures become quite uncomfortable and may develop aversions toward their fellow creature. (disdain) dispels (amiable).

Diverted: The enchanted creatures feel particularly stimulated by their current situation. (aggravation) dispels (apprehension).

Glee: The enchanted creatures are suddenly joyful and optimistic. (glee) dispels (sadness).

Sadness: The enchanted creatures feel a deep and nagging sadness. (sadness) dispels (glee).

Inspire Emotion II
Enchantment (Compulsion) [Mind-Affecting]
Level: Brd 3, Sor/Wiz 4
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 action
Range: Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)
Targets: All living creatures within a 15-ft. radius
Duration: Concentration
Saving Throw: Will negates
Spell Resistance: Yes

This spell arouses a single emotion of the character's choice in the subjects. The character can choose any one of the following versions:

Despair: The enchanted creatures suffer a –2 morale penalty to saving throws, attack rolls, ability checks, skill checks, and weapon damage rolls. (despair) dispels (joy) and (glee).

Excited: The enchanted creatures gain a +4 morale bonus to will saves and +2 bonuses to Concentration, Profession, or Craft checks as they attack their task with much gusto. (excited) dispels (boredom) and (listless).

Fear: The enchanted creatures flee from the character whenever they are in sight of the character. (fear) dispels (rage) and (aggravation).

Friendship: The enchanted creatures react more positively toward others. Their attitude shifts to the next more favorable reaction (hostile to unfriendly, unfriendly to indifferent, indifferent to friendly, or friendly to helpful). Creatures involved in combat, however, continue to fight back normally. (friendship) dispels (hate) and (disdain).

Hate: The enchanted creatures react more negatively toward others. Their attitude shifts to the next less favorable reaction (helpful to friendly, friendly to indifferent, indifferent to unfriendly, or unfriendly to hostile). (hate) dispels (friendship) and (amiable).

Joy: The enchanted creatures gain a +2 morale bonus to saving throws, attack rolls, ability checks, skill checks, and weapon damage rolls. (joy) dispels (despair) and (sadness).

Listless: The enchanted creatures gain become so bored with their current situation, they must save each round or wander away in search of something more interesting. (listless) dispels (diverted) and (excited).

Rage: The enchanted creatures gain a +2 morale bonus to Strength and Constitution scores, a +1 morale bonus on Will saves, and a –1 penalty to AC. They are compelled to fight heedless of danger. (rage) does not stack with barbarian rage or with itself. (rage) dispels (fear) and (apprehension).

Inspire Emotion III
Enchantment (Compulsion) [Mind-Affecting]
Level: Brd 5, Sor/Wiz 6
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 action
Range: Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)
Targets: All living creatures within a 15-ft. radius
Duration: Concentration
Saving Throw: Will negates
Spell Resistance: Yes

This spell arouses a single, overwhelmingly powerful emotion of the character's choice in the subjects. The character can choose any one of the following versions:

Adoration: The enchanted creatures react more positively toward one designated target. Their attitude shifts to friendly or the next more favorable reaction, which ever is more favorable to the character. Any character that is already helpful toward the character becomes devoted to the character in a platonic or romantic way as determined by previous relationship. (adoration) dispels (hate), (loathing) and (disdain).

Affect less: The enchanted creatures gain become so bored with their current situation, they actively seek danger and never shy away from it. They suffer a -4 morale penalty to reflex saves and AC. (affect less) dispels (diverted), (obsessed) and (excited).

Berserk: The enchanted creatures gain a +2 morale bonus to Strength and Constitution scores, a +1 morale bonus on Will saves, and a –1 penalty to AC. They are compelled to fight heedless of danger and will attack the nearest creature regardless of who that creature is.. (berserk) does not stack with barbarian rage or with itself. (berserk) dispels (fear), (crippling terror) and (apprehension).

Crippling Terror: The enchanted creatures flee from the character and do not cease doing so until the spell ends, not stopping for anything. (crippling terror) dispels (rage), (aggravation), and (berserk).

Depression: The enchanted creatures withdraw entirely, taking no actions except those that would remove them from any social or combat situation. (depression) dispels (joy), (glee) and (ecstasy).

Ecstasy: The enchanted creatures gain a +4 morale bonus to saving throws, attack rolls, ability checks, skill checks, and weapon damage rolls as their current course of action gives them immense, almost sexual pleasure. (ecstasy) dispels (despair), (depression) and (sadness).

Loathing: The enchanted creatures react more negatively toward others. Their attitude shifts to unfriendly or the next less favorable reaction, whichever is less favorable for the character. Any character already hostile to the character now burns with an intense hatred such that they actively seek the downfall and or death of the character. (loathing) dispels (friendship), (adoration) and (amiable).

Obsessed: The enchanted creatures cannot be distracted from their task, no matter how menial, or dangerous to them except by magic. They gain a +4 to will saves against mind effecting spells. (obsessed) dispels (boredom), (listless) and (affect less).
CaoSlayer
07-07-05, 12:11 PM the thing that I really loved about the old emotions was the rage effect, since you could use it on enemy spellcasters for screwing them badly (Fear the raging old man with a staff charging at you!) and buffing your pals at once.

also I miss the effect of the emotion: crushing despair from second edition, that caused the target to lose any hope in life, sitting in the ground wishing to die...

would be a wonderful level 8-9 spell, like weird with the exception that you can use it to capture enemies and death ward or true sight dont stop it (althrought mind blank can counter it and also would say that heroism or hope spells protect the user or dispell it)
CaoSlayer
07-07-05, 12:20 PM umm, bard´s sorcerer ultimate spell in a pinch:

Greater Crushing Dispear
Enchantment (Compulsion) [Mind-Affecting]
Level: Brd 6, Sor/Wiz 8
Components: V, S, M
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: 30 ft.
Area: Cone-shaped burst
Duration: 1 min./level
Saving Throw: Will negates
Spell Resistance: Yes

An invisible cone of despair causes great sadness in the subjects. Each affected will lose any will to fight back and live, they will drop their weapons and will sit in a corner waiting for dead; the subject it is considered flatflooted and inmobile, althrought not helpless. If a creature affected it is damaged, can try to save again against the spell.

a good hope spell will turn Greater Crushing Dispear into Crushing Dispear (the spell of the same name)

Material Component

An empty vial.
ShadowWarrior
07-10-05, 06:48 PM el- :bump:o
cowdragon
07-10-05, 09:06 PM Yeah, they got Symbol, and they got Emotion too! For the most part I really enjoy 3.5. However, I really, really, really really dislike nerfing multifunction spells. It's the only hope a sorcerer has, and they tore it to peices. Grrr.

The Cowdragon :mage:

edit*completly lost the ability to spell certain words there for a minute... noticed it when I was quoted. :(
Nani?
07-10-05, 11:12 PM Yeah, they got Simbole, and they got Emotion too! For the most part I really enjoy 3.5. However, I really, really, really really dislike nerfing multifunction spells. It's the only hope a sorcerer has, and they tore it to peices. Grrr.

The Cowdragon :mage:

Agreed, speaking as player who used to shrink doors out of thier hinges back in the days of 2e.

All the best,

Nani?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Vaalingrade Ashland 06-29-05, 03:24 PM	Hi all, I want to ressurect and expand on the 3e spell emotion. First order of buisness, though is does anyone have easier access to the 3e SRD than I do and can post the spell?
Zherog 06-29-05, 03:38 PM	Here ya go, Vaal. Emotion Enchantment (Compulsion) [Mind-Affecting] Level: Brd 3, Sor/Wiz 4 Components: V, S Casting Time: 1 action Range: Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) Targets: All living creatures within a 15-ft. radius Duration: Concentration Saving Throw: Will negates Spell Resistance: Yes This spell arouses a single emotion of the character's choice in the subjects. The character can choose any one of the following versions: Despair: The enchanted creatures suffer a –2 morale penalty to saving throws, attack rolls, ability checks, skill checks, and weapon damage rolls. Emotion (despair) dispels emotion (hope). Fear: The enchanted creatures flee from the character whenever they are in sight of the character. Emotion (fear) dispels emotion (rage). Friendship: The enchanted creatures react more positively toward others. Their attitude shifts to the next more favorable reaction (hostile to unfriendly, unfriendly to indifferent, indifferent to friendly, or friendly to helpful). Creatures involved in combat, however, continue to fight back normally. Emotion (friendship) dispels emotion (hate). Hate: The enchanted creatures react more negatively toward others. Their attitude shifts to the next less favorable reaction (helpful to friendly, friendly to indifferent, indifferent to unfriendly, or unfriendly to hostile). Emotion (hate) dispels emotion (friendship). Hope: The enchanted creatures gain a +2 morale bonus to saving throws, attack rolls, ability checks, skill checks, and weapon damage rolls. Emotion (hope) dispels emotion (despair). Rage: The enchanted creatures gain a +2 morale bonus to Strength and Constitution scores, a +1 morale bonus on Will saves, and a –1 penalty to AC. They are compelled to fight heedless of danger. Emotion (rage) does not stack with barbarian rage or with itself. Emotion (rage) dispels emotion (fear).
krichaiushii 06-29-05, 03:45 PM	Wasn't Emotion simply broken down into its component parts for 3.5? What pairs of emotion are you thinking of adding, either to Emotion as a whole, or as individual spells? BTW - Here (http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/) is a good link to all the SRDs.
Zherog 06-29-05, 03:48 PM	While that site is indeed a good one, krichaiushii, I couldn't use it. The stupid :censored: :censored: :censored: web filters here at work block it. :bored: And yes - emotion was broken down into six different spells in 3.5. It was a pretty big kick in the family jewels for sorcerers.
Vaalingrade Ashland 06-29-05, 03:52 PM	Thanks Z, you're the man. As for what's going on: I want to bring Emotion as a single spell back (because frankly the whole point of splitting it up was because two people were still playing Sorcerers and Bards) and then adding higher and lower level versions, plus expanding on the emotions created. For example, hunger, thirst, extasy, boredom, curiosity, avarice and confidence Will become lower or higher level emotions.
krichaiushii 06-29-05, 05:58 PM	I think that hunger and thirst are more physical than emotional - though one would likely experience some other emotions while hungry and thirsty. Here are some sites on emotion for you: Emotion list 1 (http://www.abwag.com/emotions.htm) Emotion list 2 (http://www.sff.net/people/julia.west/CALLIHOO/dtbb/emotions.htm) - the random generators linked to here are interesting, too. Emotion list 3 (http://www.deepermind.com/02clarty.htm)
smrtgmp 06-29-05, 06:09 PM	I dont like what was done to the multifunction spells either. I say put them all back in one piece.
ShadowWarrior 06-29-05, 07:48 PM	Emo IX Sor/Wiz 9 Enchantmet (mind-affecting) Range: Medium Target: One creature/level Duration: 1 min/level Effect: You can instill a single emotion in a target creature. You must choose an emotion from the following; despair, anger, joy, excitement, nervousness, greed, and lust. They will experience that emotion until the duration expires. edit: It seems that people absolutely need to be told how each emotion works in order to get the power of this spell. So I'm going to add a list stating how (almost) each emotion works mechanically. Despair: Target is unable to take any action and is considered prone and helpless. Anger: Target is filled with an all consuming anger and they begin to attack the closest object or creature to them. +6 circumstance bonus on attack rolls and a -6 circumstance penalty to AC. Joy: Target is incessantly cheerful gaining a +6 circumstance bonus on diplomacy checks while suffering(sp?) a -6 circumstance penalty on all bluff, forgery, and disguise checks. Excitement: Target is rendered extremely excitable and hyperactive gaining a +6 circumstance bonus on initiative checks while taking a -6 circumstance penalty on all concentration and autohypnosis checks. (replace autohypnosis with profession if not using psionics) Nervousness: Target has a complete nervous breakdown and is stricken with such dread that they are unable to take any action, even to defend themselves. The target is considered helpless for the duration. If they are attacked and survive (remember coup de grace), their condition reverts to panicked. Greed: The target is filled with such avarice that they are incapable of considering others needs and will try to take valuables from anyone they have the opportunity to. The target gains a +6 circumstance bonus on all bluff and sleight of hand checks while taking a -6 circumstance penalty on all diplomacy, hide, listen, move silently, sense motive, and spot checks. Lust: The target is filled with such lust that they act in a manner that is quite like an animal in heat.
Vaalingrade Ashland 06-29-05, 07:57 PM	That's like... the weakest 9th level spell ever. I'm working on my Emotion spell line; Inspire Emotion right now. The basics: Inspire I (1st level Bard, 2nd level Sor/Wiz) - inspires base emotions , but does not force the target to act on them.For example, you can make them feel fear, but it has no numeric effect. Inspire II (3rd level Bard, 4th level Sor/Wiz) - Acts as Emotion with more modes Inspire III (5th level Bard, 6th level Sor/Wiz) - Each mode creates and extreme, longer lasting reaction to the emotion (hate becomes murderous intent, friendship becomes love, hunger becomes ravenous intent, dispair becomes depression)
smrtgmp 06-29-05, 10:37 PM	That's like... the weakest 9th level spell ever. seriously
Vaalingrade Ashland 07-06-05, 07:08 PM	Here they are, Mark I of the Inspire series: Inspire Emotion I Enchantment (Compulsion) [Mind-Affecting] Level: Brd 1, Sor/Wiz 2 Components: V, S Casting Time: 1 action Range: Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) Targets: All living creatures within a 15-ft. radius Duration: Concentration Saving Throw: Will negates Spell Resistance: Yes This spell a single, minor feeling or urge of the character's choice in the subjects. While the effected creature does not have to act on these feelings, they usually do, following the usual course of action they would if they genuinely had these feelings. The character can choose any one of the following versions: Aggravation: The enchanted creatures become quite irritable and cavalier about their current situation. (aggravation) dispels (apprehension). Amiable: The enchanted creatures feel more comfortable and friendly toward their fellow creature. (amiable) dispels (disdain). Apprehension: The enchanted creatures experience a general bad feeling about their situation, as if misfortune is lurking just around the corner. (apprehension) dispels (aggravation). Boredom: The enchanted creatures become unhappy with the low level of excitement in the current situation. (boredom) dispels (diverted). Disdain: The enchanted creatures become quite uncomfortable and may develop aversions toward their fellow creature. (disdain) dispels (amiable). Diverted: The enchanted creatures feel particularly stimulated by their current situation. (aggravation) dispels (apprehension). Glee: The enchanted creatures are suddenly joyful and optimistic. (glee) dispels (sadness). Sadness: The enchanted creatures feel a deep and nagging sadness. (sadness) dispels (glee). Inspire Emotion II Enchantment (Compulsion) [Mind-Affecting] Level: Brd 3, Sor/Wiz 4 Components: V, S Casting Time: 1 action Range: Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) Targets: All living creatures within a 15-ft. radius Duration: Concentration Saving Throw: Will negates Spell Resistance: Yes This spell arouses a single emotion of the character's choice in the subjects. The character can choose any one of the following versions: Despair: The enchanted creatures suffer a –2 morale penalty to saving throws, attack rolls, ability checks, skill checks, and weapon damage rolls. (despair) dispels (joy) and (glee). Excited: The enchanted creatures gain a +4 morale bonus to will saves and +2 bonuses to Concentration, Profession, or Craft checks as they attack their task with much gusto. (excited) dispels (boredom) and (listless). Fear: The enchanted creatures flee from the character whenever they are in sight of the character. (fear) dispels (rage) and (aggravation). Friendship: The enchanted creatures react more positively toward others. Their attitude shifts to the next more favorable reaction (hostile to unfriendly, unfriendly to indifferent, indifferent to friendly, or friendly to helpful). Creatures involved in combat, however, continue to fight back normally. (friendship) dispels (hate) and (disdain). Hate: The enchanted creatures react more negatively toward others. Their attitude shifts to the next less favorable reaction (helpful to friendly, friendly to indifferent, indifferent to unfriendly, or unfriendly to hostile). (hate) dispels (friendship) and (amiable). Joy: The enchanted creatures gain a +2 morale bonus to saving throws, attack rolls, ability checks, skill checks, and weapon damage rolls. (joy) dispels (despair) and (sadness). Listless: The enchanted creatures gain become so bored with their current situation, they must save each round or wander away in search of something more interesting. (listless) dispels (diverted) and (excited). Rage: The enchanted creatures gain a +2 morale bonus to Strength and Constitution scores, a +1 morale bonus on Will saves, and a –1 penalty to AC. They are compelled to fight heedless of danger. (rage) does not stack with barbarian rage or with itself. (rage) dispels (fear) and (apprehension). Inspire Emotion III Enchantment (Compulsion) [Mind-Affecting] Level: Brd 5, Sor/Wiz 6 Components: V, S Casting Time: 1 action Range: Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) Targets: All living creatures within a 15-ft. radius Duration: Concentration Saving Throw: Will negates Spell Resistance: Yes This spell arouses a single, overwhelmingly powerful emotion of the character's choice in the subjects. The character can choose any one of the following versions: Adoration: The enchanted creatures react more positively toward one designated target. Their attitude shifts to friendly or the next more favorable reaction, which ever is more favorable to the character. Any character that is already helpful toward the character becomes devoted to the character in a platonic or romantic way as determined by previous relationship. (adoration) dispels (hate), (loathing) and (disdain). Affect less: The enchanted creatures gain become so bored with their current situation, they actively seek danger and never shy away from it. They suffer a -4 morale penalty to reflex saves and AC. (affect less) dispels (diverted), (obsessed) and (excited). Berserk: The enchanted creatures gain a +2 morale bonus to Strength and Constitution scores, a +1 morale bonus on Will saves, and a –1 penalty to AC. They are compelled to fight heedless of danger and will attack the nearest creature regardless of who that creature is.. (berserk) does not stack with barbarian rage or with itself. (berserk) dispels (fear), (crippling terror) and (apprehension). Crippling Terror: The enchanted creatures flee from the character and do not cease doing so until the spell ends, not stopping for anything. (crippling terror) dispels (rage), (aggravation), and (berserk). Depression: The enchanted creatures withdraw entirely, taking no actions except those that would remove them from any social or combat situation. (depression) dispels (joy), (glee) and (ecstasy). Ecstasy: The enchanted creatures gain a +4 morale bonus to saving throws, attack rolls, ability checks, skill checks, and weapon damage rolls as their current course of action gives them immense, almost sexual pleasure. (ecstasy) dispels (despair), (depression) and (sadness). Loathing: The enchanted creatures react more negatively toward others. Their attitude shifts to unfriendly or the next less favorable reaction, whichever is less favorable for the character. Any character already hostile to the character now burns with an intense hatred such that they actively seek the downfall and or death of the character. (loathing) dispels (friendship), (adoration) and (amiable). Obsessed: The enchanted creatures cannot be distracted from their task, no matter how menial, or dangerous to them except by magic. They gain a +4 to will saves against mind effecting spells. (obsessed) dispels (boredom), (listless) and (affect less).
CaoSlayer 07-07-05, 12:11 PM	the thing that I really loved about the old emotions was the rage effect, since you could use it on enemy spellcasters for screwing them badly (Fear the raging old man with a staff charging at you!) and buffing your pals at once. also I miss the effect of the emotion: crushing despair from second edition, that caused the target to lose any hope in life, sitting in the ground wishing to die... would be a wonderful level 8-9 spell, like weird with the exception that you can use it to capture enemies and death ward or true sight dont stop it (althrought mind blank can counter it and also would say that heroism or hope spells protect the user or dispell it)
CaoSlayer 07-07-05, 12:20 PM	umm, bard´s sorcerer ultimate spell in a pinch: Greater Crushing Dispear Enchantment (Compulsion) [Mind-Affecting] Level: Brd 6, Sor/Wiz 8 Components: V, S, M Casting Time: 1 standard action Range: 30 ft. Area: Cone-shaped burst Duration: 1 min./level Saving Throw: Will negates Spell Resistance: Yes An invisible cone of despair causes great sadness in the subjects. Each affected will lose any will to fight back and live, they will drop their weapons and will sit in a corner waiting for dead; the subject it is considered flatflooted and inmobile, althrought not helpless. If a creature affected it is damaged, can try to save again against the spell. a good hope spell will turn Greater Crushing Dispear into Crushing Dispear (the spell of the same name) Material Component An empty vial.
ShadowWarrior 07-10-05, 06:48 PM	el- :bump:o
cowdragon 07-10-05, 09:06 PM	Yeah, they got Symbol, and they got Emotion too! For the most part I really enjoy 3.5. However, I really, really, really really dislike nerfing multifunction spells. It's the only hope a sorcerer has, and they tore it to peices. Grrr. The Cowdragon :mage: edit*completly lost the ability to spell certain words there for a minute... noticed it when I was quoted. :(
Nani? 07-10-05, 11:12 PM	Yeah, they got Simbole, and they got Emotion too! For the most part I really enjoy 3.5. However, I really, really, really really dislike nerfing multifunction spells. It's the only hope a sorcerer has, and they tore it to peices. Grrr. The Cowdragon :mage: Agreed, speaking as player who used to shrink doors out of thier hinges back in the days of 2e. All the best, Nani?