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Zukasklan 07-19-05, 02:25 AM	In the page 207 of the players handbook the rules says that after the using of this spell the target if using clothes gets it burning, if it burns the damage is greater than the normal like it´s said in the dungeon master guide, but how can a 1st circle magic do more damage than other spells of greater circles? oO is this possible or is like in the DM book that specify that magics with istantaneous effects does not do the burning damage? oO :confused: please help me I´m so confused =(
Zukasklan 07-19-05, 02:38 AM	normal damage = 1d4 / level (max. 5d4) damage with the burning = 1d4 / level (max. 5d4) + 1d6 per round until the fire dies (by the dm book rules)
Darazel 07-19-05, 03:47 AM	Spells with an instantaneous duration don’t normally set a character on fire, since the heat and flame from these come and go in a flash. Here you are...
Zorminster 07-19-05, 08:11 AM	A cone of searing flame shoots from your fingertips. Any creature in teh area of the flame takes 1d4 points of fire damage per caster level (maximum 5d4). Flammable materials such as cloth, paper, parchment, and thin wood burn if the flames touch them. A character can extinguish burning items as a full-round action so which core rulebook takes precedence?
tarkin 07-19-05, 09:05 AM	The Srd just says "flamable material", not specifying Cloth. Are you reading a non-english language version? If so, I would just ignore the word cloth entirely. Even so, cloth is not cloathing, and more importantly, things on your body are attended objects, and they get more protection then things not on your body. Burning Hands is an instant spell. As such it does NOT set PC's on fire under normal circumstances. That is a direct rule, and it over-rides 'questionable' logic chains like the one you are using. Questionable logic chain you are using: Burning hands sets fire to flamable materials, such as cloth. Cloathing can be made of cloth. Therefore Burning Hands can set the cloth on some people on fire. Therefore the people will be on fire. The holes are 1) Cloth may be a language issue. 2) Not all cloathing is made of cloth and it might be considered special cloth that does not burn easily or simply treated cloth so it is less likely to burn. 3) The fact that the cloathing is worn definitely offers it some protection. 4) Setting the cloth on fire may be a tiny little flame, not a big huge damaging flame, one that it easily put out as a free-action before it does any damage, but only if you are say close enough to it (like wearing it).
Zorminster 07-19-05, 10:12 AM	no man, im using the 3.5 PHB spell description. its a VERY english version as im from TN :P I may have something askew between our terms though- SRD? For some reason I had it in my head we were refering to originial publishers- I remeber 2nd edition was by TSR right? I think i may have jumbled this in my mind not realized DnD is now (was it always?) WoTC material. I typed the spell description verbatim except for TEH which was a legit typo :P
Santrilla 07-19-05, 10:38 AM	SRD stands for 'System Reference Document'. It's all the meaty bits of the PHB, DMG and MM (amongst others) compiled into one handy place, with all the copyright-infringing fat left out. It's used as a direct reference as much as the books themselves, because it is taken directly from them.
Zorminster 07-19-05, 10:54 AM	so whose spell description do we take more accurate? the one off of SRD or the 3.5 PHB? id opt for the phb since its the in print core rulebook.
tarkin 07-19-05, 11:14 AM	It doesn't really matter. Your logic chain is still faulty, even if the PHB says cloth is flamable. Burning Hands does not light people on fire, the direct rule about instanteous spells not lighting people on fire over-rules a questionable logic chain.