Can a wizard copy a spell into his spellbook of a level he cant yet cast? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Can a wizard copy a spell into his spellbook of a level he cant yet cast? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Beware of Kobold
03-24-07, 04:12 AM that's my question, can a level 1 wizard for example copy a level 2 wizard spell into into his spellbook? If so, why, and if not why not?
runestar
03-24-07, 06:24 AM Sure, I don't see anything explicitly prohibiting it.:)
Seeker95
03-24-07, 07:09 AM Yes, he can. PHB page 178, under Arcane Magical Writings.
It requires a spellcraft check based on the spell level.
Neutronium_Dragon
03-24-07, 12:17 PM He can, yes. If he can make the spellcraft check, a 1st level wizard can copy a 9th level spell into his spellbook.

He can't actually prepare or cast it, however.
FrinkiacVII
03-24-07, 04:23 PM Copy it into his book, with a spellcraft check, yes. But you can't prepare it for casting until you get to the appropriate level to do so. Also, learning the spell takes time (I think they say it takes like 8 hours or something to try to learn one spell from a scroll, don't quote me).
Gadren
03-24-07, 05:00 PM Can a specialist copy a prohibited spell into his spellbook, even though he'll never be able to cast it?
For example, he wants to document the spell to bring back to his wizard's college. (Or maybe he's an Ultimate Magus trying to cheese his Expanded Spell Knowledge class feature.)
Neutronium_Dragon
03-24-07, 08:00 PM No, since it has to be one you can learn.
Thiez
03-24-07, 08:11 PM And he can. He just can't cast it yet.
Neutronium_Dragon
03-24-07, 08:15 PM Not if it's from his prohibited school, he can't.
Thiez
03-24-07, 08:16 PM Oh crap, you're right, someone posted a new question, I was responding to the original OP.

Sorry for not reading the topic.
runestar
03-24-07, 10:52 PM It would be useful for a specialist wizard who plans to enter the red wizard prc though, since he retains the ability to cast whatever spells he knew from his new prohibited school.:)

So just learn every spell from said school, then ban it.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Beware of Kobold 03-24-07, 04:12 AM	that's my question, can a level 1 wizard for example copy a level 2 wizard spell into into his spellbook? If so, why, and if not why not?
runestar 03-24-07, 06:24 AM	Sure, I don't see anything explicitly prohibiting it.:)
Seeker95 03-24-07, 07:09 AM	Yes, he can. PHB page 178, under Arcane Magical Writings. It requires a spellcraft check based on the spell level.
Neutronium_Dragon 03-24-07, 12:17 PM	He can, yes. If he can make the spellcraft check, a 1st level wizard can copy a 9th level spell into his spellbook. He can't actually prepare or cast it, however.
FrinkiacVII 03-24-07, 04:23 PM	Copy it into his book, with a spellcraft check, yes. But you can't prepare it for casting until you get to the appropriate level to do so. Also, learning the spell takes time (I think they say it takes like 8 hours or something to try to learn one spell from a scroll, don't quote me).
Gadren 03-24-07, 05:00 PM	Can a specialist copy a prohibited spell into his spellbook, even though he'll never be able to cast it? For example, he wants to document the spell to bring back to his wizard's college. (Or maybe he's an Ultimate Magus trying to cheese his Expanded Spell Knowledge class feature.)
Neutronium_Dragon 03-24-07, 08:00 PM	No, since it has to be one you can learn.
Thiez 03-24-07, 08:11 PM	And he can. He just can't cast it yet.
Neutronium_Dragon 03-24-07, 08:15 PM	Not if it's from his prohibited school, he can't.
Thiez 03-24-07, 08:16 PM	Oh crap, you're right, someone posted a new question, I was responding to the original OP. Sorry for not reading the topic.
runestar 03-24-07, 10:52 PM	It would be useful for a specialist wizard who plans to enter the red wizard prc though, since he retains the ability to cast whatever spells he knew from his new prohibited school.:) So just learn every spell from said school, then ban it.