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Grizwald 12-20-05, 12:04 AM	Hi I'm a noob Dm and was just wondering if Turn Undead can be countered by another Turn Undead spell?. For example a "good" cleric attempts to turn a bunch of undead being controlled by a "evil" cleric, can the evil cleric counter the good cleric's turn attempt with his own readied turn undead spell the same way arcane spell casters use counter spell.?
farfairer 12-20-05, 12:58 AM	You can't counter turning, but you can dispel it. The rules are on page 159 of the PHB. The difference between the two is, that if you could counter a turning atempt it could prevent an undead from being destroyed. Since Turning can only be dispeled and not countered, if the good cleric destroys the undead with his turn attempt, the undead is no longer there for the evil cleric to save.
Talmar 12-20-05, 09:56 AM	However, there are several feats, magic items, racial abilities and class/prestige class features that grant Turn Resistance
Grizwald 12-20-05, 01:41 PM	Thanks for the replies. I am putting my party up against an undead encounter and was trying to figure out how to make it harder for them to turn the lesser undead so I'll equip the boss with a few dispells. thanks
farfairer 12-20-05, 02:16 PM	Thanks for the replies. I am putting my party up against an undead encounter and was trying to figure out how to make it harder for them to turn the lesser undead so I'll equip the boss with a few dispells. thanks WAIT!!!!! I am sorry, I didn't mean to mislead you with this, but you cannot use the spell Dispel Magic to undo a good cleric's turning. The evil cleric must use a rebuke attempt to dispel the turning. The rules for how this works are on page 159 of the PHB. If you want to buff the encounter, look at the feats in Libra Mortis.
Grizwald 12-20-05, 05:14 PM	Thanks farfairer you have been a great help! :) :)