Can I summon the party's Monk? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Can I summon the party's Monk? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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detectevil
05-06-04, 11:17 AM Or any other outsider PC, for that matter.

Using the variant for summoning a specific creature, could it be done?

Let's say a druid has a Centaur for a cohort? Could he summon him with Summon Nature's Ally? And would he be transported back to where he was and completely replenished after the spell is over?
ThibledorfPwent
05-06-04, 11:53 AM I really don't think so. SNA can only be used to summon animals, and unless your monk got turned into an animal permanently, he can't be summoned. Neither can a centaur.

I'm not quite sure what would happen if someone were playing an awakened animal though...
Lemmose
05-06-04, 12:43 PM By the normal summoning spells, not likely, unless the monk is level 20, thus an outsider, the monk is in a plane native to his/her alignment and/or their diety, and you were using an Epic Level summoning spell, such as Summon Monster 25 (which I don't think actually exists, but would be neseccary to summon such a powerful being), and then it is your DMs call whether he/she wants to let you do it or not.

If you want to summon an ally, I would just make a varient spell based off of the teleport spells. A few ideas if that's the way you want to go;

Require the summonable beings to either hold a specific magical item (Wonderious, Caster Level ?, Spells: Wizard Mark) that's required for the spell to work, or routinely cast Wizard Mark on them.

You may want to think about making the target able to refuse the summons (afterall, if I'm with the Mrs, I would be EXTREMELY annoyed if I was summoned away), but thhis is just an optional choice. It may even help lower the spell level.

Make the casting time LOW. You may not think of it at first, but that one time the paladin stays to guard everyone elses escape is NOT when you want to spend an hour to summon the half digested corpse.

You may want to limit it to just those whose alive, which too would help lower the spell level, but would hinder any resurrection attempts.

Do you want it to act like a Summon Monster Spell too? By taking a higher spell level, but you may be able to summon monsters as if using Summon Monster of either 2 or 3 levels below this spells actual level (if its a 6th level spell, you could cast this to have the effect of Summon Monster 3, or something like that).

While teleportation spells are not my area of expertese, I'd figure this spell would be between level 4-7, depending on its versitiliy and the choices you make when creating it.

Hope this helps,
Lemmose
detectevil
05-06-04, 04:47 PM Originally posted by ThibledorfPwent
I really don't think so. SNA can only be used to summon animals, and unless your monk got turned into an animal permanently, he can't be summoned. Neither can a centaur.

I'm not quite sure what would happen if someone were playing an awakened animal though...

A awakened animal is a magical beast.

But a Centaur IS on the Summon Nature Ally list. And so is a Pixie or a Satyr.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
detectevil 05-06-04, 11:17 AM	Or any other outsider PC, for that matter. Using the variant for summoning a specific creature, could it be done? Let's say a druid has a Centaur for a cohort? Could he summon him with Summon Nature's Ally? And would he be transported back to where he was and completely replenished after the spell is over?
ThibledorfPwent 05-06-04, 11:53 AM	I really don't think so. SNA can only be used to summon animals, and unless your monk got turned into an animal permanently, he can't be summoned. Neither can a centaur. I'm not quite sure what would happen if someone were playing an awakened animal though...
Lemmose 05-06-04, 12:43 PM	By the normal summoning spells, not likely, unless the monk is level 20, thus an outsider, the monk is in a plane native to his/her alignment and/or their diety, and you were using an Epic Level summoning spell, such as Summon Monster 25 (which I don't think actually exists, but would be neseccary to summon such a powerful being), and then it is your DMs call whether he/she wants to let you do it or not. If you want to summon an ally, I would just make a varient spell based off of the teleport spells. A few ideas if that's the way you want to go; Require the summonable beings to either hold a specific magical item (Wonderious, Caster Level ?, Spells: Wizard Mark) that's required for the spell to work, or routinely cast Wizard Mark on them. You may want to think about making the target able to refuse the summons (afterall, if I'm with the Mrs, I would be EXTREMELY annoyed if I was summoned away), but thhis is just an optional choice. It may even help lower the spell level. Make the casting time LOW. You may not think of it at first, but that one time the paladin stays to guard everyone elses escape is NOT when you want to spend an hour to summon the half digested corpse. You may want to limit it to just those whose alive, which too would help lower the spell level, but would hinder any resurrection attempts. Do you want it to act like a Summon Monster Spell too? By taking a higher spell level, but you may be able to summon monsters as if using Summon Monster of either 2 or 3 levels below this spells actual level (if its a 6th level spell, you could cast this to have the effect of Summon Monster 3, or something like that). While teleportation spells are not my area of expertese, I'd figure this spell would be between level 4-7, depending on its versitiliy and the choices you make when creating it. Hope this helps, Lemmose
detectevil 05-06-04, 04:47 PM	Originally posted by ThibledorfPwent I really don't think so. SNA can only be used to summon animals, and unless your monk got turned into an animal permanently, he can't be summoned. Neither can a centaur. I'm not quite sure what would happen if someone were playing an awakened animal though... A awakened animal is a magical beast. But a Centaur IS on the Summon Nature Ally list. And so is a Pixie or a Satyr.