Can Walls of Force bend [Archive] - Wizards Community

Can Walls of Force bend [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Neratos
11-09-06, 02:54 AM Sorry if this is a repeat question, no search fun makes it hard to find out. Can a wall of force cut a corner, IE draw one as follows
_______
|
|
|_________

The breaking of the plane is what brought about this question. And since walls of force are vertical, some believe they have to exist in the Y Plane, so only have 1 dimension. Is this right or can walls of force turn corners?
smrtgmp
11-09-06, 04:22 AM I'm fairly certain they have to be flat, given the use of the word plane.
Dunamin
11-09-06, 05:22 AM It has to be a flat plane, so the answer is no.
And planes are 2-D, not 1-D (hard to keep out your foes with a Bar of Force).
smrtgmp
11-09-06, 05:25 AM lol
User5127
11-09-06, 10:23 AM (hard to keep out your foes with a Bar of Force).

But imagine the kinda drinks a bar of force would sell!
and all the walls would be invisible. it would be such a cool bar!
tarkin
11-09-06, 10:56 AM Officially Walls of Force have a width, making them 3-D.
Correction, it is one inch, not 3.

Click here to see the SRD entry about it. (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/obstacles.htm#walls)
Dunamin
11-09-06, 11:08 AM But imagine the kinda drinks a bar of force would sell!
and all the walls would be invisible. it would be such a cool bar!
Yeah, but think about all the beer and drinks that would be spilled due to invisibility. Also, going home from a long night out at the Bar of Force can quite troublesome, bumping into Barstools of Force, and whatnot.
Neratos
11-09-06, 11:11 AM Thanks, so walls of force are 2d. And who would tend a bar of force lol
Dunamin
11-09-06, 11:13 AM And who would tend a bar of force lol
Unseen Servants? They are invisible force effects, if I remember correctly.
Neratos
11-09-06, 04:28 PM Okay, i took the time to reread the spell (something i recomend lol) and found something interesting.

The caster can form the wall into a flat vertical plane whose area is up to one 10-foot squre per level. The wall must be continuous and unbroken when formed. If its surface is broken by any object or creature, the spell fails.

So by this, I understand that it can take turns. For instance, it goes 10ft then turns and goes 10ft. This is still continuous and unbroken when formed. It is a wall that is vertical as well. And it's area is measured in 10ft squares. By this the wall has to be in 10ft sheets and cannot be horrizontal in nature. Is this right?
Nom
11-09-06, 05:02 PM "flat vertical plane". If it bends, curves, wiggles or otherwise isn't, well, planar then it's not a plane.
Dyerhouse
11-09-06, 05:08 PM It has to be a flat plane, so the answer is no.
And planes are 2-D, not 1-D (hard to keep out your foes with a Bar of Force).

Technically, it wouldn't have any thickness or height, so if it still existed then it would be invisible and more fine than any wire. This would cut people in half, being thinner than an atom.

Of course I might have this wrong. It's been a bit since geometry classes.
Whirlwind
11-09-06, 05:32 PM Okay, i took the time to reread the spell (something i recomend lol) and found something interesting.

So by this, I understand that it can take turns. For instance, it goes 10ft then turns and goes 10ft. This is still continuous and unbroken when formed. It is a wall that is vertical as well. And it's area is measured in 10ft squares. By this the wall has to be in 10ft sheets and cannot be horrizontal in nature. Is this right?

No. If it takes turns its not a plane. Instead you'd be making multiple planes - one for each section. Since the spell specifically states "plane" and not "planes", turns are not allowed.
ZomB
11-09-06, 05:32 PM Perhaps what you want is a wall of Horse?
A Mount, Mass spell should be third level - so summon a ring of horses around you for wiggly cover.

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Dunamin
11-09-06, 05:57 PM Technically, it wouldn't have any thickness or height, so if it still existed then it would be invisible and more fine than any wire. This would cut people in half, being thinner than an atom.

Of course I might have this wrong. It's been a bit since geometry classes.
In response to this, I was going to suggest it might be more appropiate to rename our beloved Bar of Force to Line of Force, but turns out it would be an inch-thick after all...

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Neratos 11-09-06, 02:54 AM	Sorry if this is a repeat question, no search fun makes it hard to find out. Can a wall of force cut a corner, IE draw one as follows _______ \| \| \|_________ The breaking of the plane is what brought about this question. And since walls of force are vertical, some believe they have to exist in the Y Plane, so only have 1 dimension. Is this right or can walls of force turn corners?
smrtgmp 11-09-06, 04:22 AM	I'm fairly certain they have to be flat, given the use of the word plane.
Dunamin 11-09-06, 05:22 AM	It has to be a flat plane, so the answer is no. And planes are 2-D, not 1-D (hard to keep out your foes with a Bar of Force).
smrtgmp 11-09-06, 05:25 AM	lol
User5127 11-09-06, 10:23 AM	(hard to keep out your foes with a Bar of Force). But imagine the kinda drinks a bar of force would sell! and all the walls would be invisible. it would be such a cool bar!
tarkin 11-09-06, 10:56 AM	Officially Walls of Force have a width, making them 3-D. Correction, it is one inch, not 3. Click here to see the SRD entry about it. (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/obstacles.htm#walls)
Dunamin 11-09-06, 11:08 AM	But imagine the kinda drinks a bar of force would sell! and all the walls would be invisible. it would be such a cool bar! Yeah, but think about all the beer and drinks that would be spilled due to invisibility. Also, going home from a long night out at the Bar of Force can quite troublesome, bumping into Barstools of Force, and whatnot.
Neratos 11-09-06, 11:11 AM	Thanks, so walls of force are 2d. And who would tend a bar of force lol
Dunamin 11-09-06, 11:13 AM	And who would tend a bar of force lol Unseen Servants? They are invisible force effects, if I remember correctly.
Neratos 11-09-06, 04:28 PM	Okay, i took the time to reread the spell (something i recomend lol) and found something interesting. The caster can form the wall into a flat vertical plane whose area is up to one 10-foot squre per level. The wall must be continuous and unbroken when formed. If its surface is broken by any object or creature, the spell fails. So by this, I understand that it can take turns. For instance, it goes 10ft then turns and goes 10ft. This is still continuous and unbroken when formed. It is a wall that is vertical as well. And it's area is measured in 10ft squares. By this the wall has to be in 10ft sheets and cannot be horrizontal in nature. Is this right?
Nom 11-09-06, 05:02 PM	"flat vertical plane". If it bends, curves, wiggles or otherwise isn't, well, planar then it's not a plane.
Dyerhouse 11-09-06, 05:08 PM	It has to be a flat plane, so the answer is no. And planes are 2-D, not 1-D (hard to keep out your foes with a Bar of Force). Technically, it wouldn't have any thickness or height, so if it still existed then it would be invisible and more fine than any wire. This would cut people in half, being thinner than an atom. Of course I might have this wrong. It's been a bit since geometry classes.
Whirlwind 11-09-06, 05:32 PM	Okay, i took the time to reread the spell (something i recomend lol) and found something interesting. So by this, I understand that it can take turns. For instance, it goes 10ft then turns and goes 10ft. This is still continuous and unbroken when formed. It is a wall that is vertical as well. And it's area is measured in 10ft squares. By this the wall has to be in 10ft sheets and cannot be horrizontal in nature. Is this right? No. If it takes turns its not a plane. Instead you'd be making multiple planes - one for each section. Since the spell specifically states "plane" and not "planes", turns are not allowed.
ZomB 11-09-06, 05:32 PM	Perhaps what you want is a wall of Horse? A Mount, Mass spell should be third level - so summon a ring of horses around you for wiggly cover. - -- to search this site drop this into Google "site:www.wizards.com search-string"
Dunamin 11-09-06, 05:57 PM	Technically, it wouldn't have any thickness or height, so if it still existed then it would be invisible and more fine than any wire. This would cut people in half, being thinner than an atom. Of course I might have this wrong. It's been a bit since geometry classes. In response to this, I was going to suggest it might be more appropiate to rename our beloved Bar of Force to Line of Force, but turns out it would be an inch-thick after all...