Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Codiwan 01-17-05, 02:27 AM	I'm apparently missing an old spell that i loved dearly so I'll keep it short..WHERE IS CANTRIP IN 3.0 AND 3.5?! Thank you :)
Ssussunriyh 01-17-05, 03:34 AM	The 2E 1st-level spell Cantrip has in 3E become the 0-level spell Prestidigitation. It's listed in the Player's Handbook, but if you have access to Tome and Blood, see Chapter 5, page 80 for expanded details on what you can do with it, in the section "Fun with Prestidigitation." By the way, in 3E all 0-level arcane spells are called "cantrips," and all 0-level divine spells are called "orisions." (Just to speed you on the way to total confusion when making the switch to the new rules...)
Codiwan 01-17-05, 04:04 AM	I liked the old cantrip spell...i cast it, and i can preform any one minor thing..like someone in my gaming group one time used it to get rid of a guard by making him really need to go to the bathroom so we could sneak into a castle...
Ssussunriyh 01-17-05, 04:30 AM	Hmm... that particular effect would be a DM's judgement call. Personally, I'm not sure I'd allow it. Does the spell allow for effecting physiological changes in a creature or person, even minor ones like bladder control? Or mind influencing-effects, like making the guard believe that he had to go to the john? Neither version of the spell says anything of the sort...