Care-plan for awakened undead [Archive] - Wizards Community

Care-plan for awakened undead [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Valk
03-13-07, 10:26 AM Awaken undead can be really cool. A player wants to make an intelligent skeleton character (using awaken undead from libris mortis). No difficulties there, the difficulty comes from a gruesome death spell on each major caster's spell list: DISPEL MAGIC

Would it be in any way possible (according to the rules) to recover the advanced personality (gained 7 levels since awakening for example) after it is dispelled or destroyed?
Wish and Miracle will probably work, but are there other (cheaper) things?

Note that rulebending as DM is almost impossible in our game, we have multiple DM's that all have to agree on rules changes and most (including me) are against changing rules in general, and finally we must answer to the players about rules changes we do make.
We'd like to solve this without or with as little rule changes as possible.
Seeker95
03-13-07, 02:44 PM Dispel magic will not end an awaken spell. Its duration is instantaneous.
Valk
03-13-07, 04:11 PM Awaken undead unfortunately has the duration: Permanent (D)
Witch
03-13-07, 04:16 PM Then it was badly written.
Thiez
03-13-07, 04:18 PM Pick up the necropolitan template (Libris Mortis), smile at your DM, and work from there.
Wind of Darkness
03-13-07, 04:21 PM I don't have Libris Mortis, but the SpC version of awaken undead has an instantaneous duration. Since the Spell Compendium is the more recent book, it's version supercedes the old one.
Seeker95
03-13-07, 09:10 PM Awaken undead unfortunately has the duration: Permanent (D)Libris Mortis had it at Permanent, as did Savage Species. But Spell Compendium corrected this mistake to bring awaken undead in line with other awaken spells.

Fear not, undead awakener. It cannot be dispelled.
Valk
03-14-07, 03:08 AM cool thanks

maybe I should buy this spell compedium thingy sometime soon
cog_n_taz
03-14-07, 06:46 AM thank spell compendium. Without it, a level 5/6 caster of most sorts could kill oalian(ECS, awakened tree druid 20).

round 1: dispel magic.

round 2:buzzsaw

round 3:level up and run like hell.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Valk 03-13-07, 10:26 AM	Awaken undead can be really cool. A player wants to make an intelligent skeleton character (using awaken undead from libris mortis). No difficulties there, the difficulty comes from a gruesome death spell on each major caster's spell list: DISPEL MAGIC Would it be in any way possible (according to the rules) to recover the advanced personality (gained 7 levels since awakening for example) after it is dispelled or destroyed? Wish and Miracle will probably work, but are there other (cheaper) things? Note that rulebending as DM is almost impossible in our game, we have multiple DM's that all have to agree on rules changes and most (including me) are against changing rules in general, and finally we must answer to the players about rules changes we do make. We'd like to solve this without or with as little rule changes as possible.
Seeker95 03-13-07, 02:44 PM	Dispel magic will not end an awaken spell. Its duration is instantaneous.
Valk 03-13-07, 04:11 PM	Awaken undead unfortunately has the duration: Permanent (D)
Witch 03-13-07, 04:16 PM	Then it was badly written.
Thiez 03-13-07, 04:18 PM	Pick up the necropolitan template (Libris Mortis), smile at your DM, and work from there.
Wind of Darkness 03-13-07, 04:21 PM	I don't have Libris Mortis, but the SpC version of awaken undead has an instantaneous duration. Since the Spell Compendium is the more recent book, it's version supercedes the old one.
Seeker95 03-13-07, 09:10 PM	Awaken undead unfortunately has the duration: Permanent (D)Libris Mortis had it at Permanent, as did Savage Species. But Spell Compendium corrected this mistake to bring awaken undead in line with other awaken spells. Fear not, undead awakener. It cannot be dispelled.
Valk 03-14-07, 03:08 AM	cool thanks maybe I should buy this spell compedium thingy sometime soon
cog_n_taz 03-14-07, 06:46 AM	thank spell compendium. Without it, a level 5/6 caster of most sorts could kill oalian(ECS, awakened tree druid 20). round 1: dispel magic. round 2:buzzsaw round 3:level up and run like hell.