Post/Author/DateTime	Post
GalaGalaxia 10-24-06, 12:53 PM	If threatened by a mage slayer and therefore unable to cast defensively, that simply means that you provoke attacks of opportunity each time, correct? Any other drawbacks? (and yes, I know that quickened spells, or spells which can otherwise be cast as a free action, do not provoke attacks of opportunity)
The Simbul 10-24-06, 02:30 PM	You could normally take a 5ft step and then proceed to cast a spell, however most Mage Slayer builds involve the use of reach weapons (i.e. spiked chain) so this tactic isnt very useful. The key to a mage overcoming a Mage Slayer is having defensive or mobility spells in place BEFORE the enemy is adjacent to you, which should not be that hard given some of the durations of them. Likewise, in addition to quickened/swift/immediate actions not provoking an AoO, you also have free reign to use spell trigger, command word, use activated (non-potion), or continuous magic items, as well as supernatural or extraordinary abilities (arcane fire, wildshape, etc). IMO the most recent and better tactics against Mage Slayer is Complete Mage's dimension jumper (Sor/Wiz5, swift action casting time, teleport 30ft as a move action, duration 1/round), which is basically the new and improved version of Lutzaen's frequent jaunt. In addition, unlike Lutzaen's frequent jaunt, the dimension jumper spell does NOT reference or chain off of dimension door, which means you are free to take actions before OR after teleporting. So you can use the spell to get away from an enemy and then cast standard action spell to either kill them, restrain them, or to put more distance between the two of you.
pmurray@bigpond.com 10-27-06, 05:43 AM	Wizards have plenty of skill points. I always max out Tumble - a DC 15 (Dex) check to avoid AAOs from a foe. Wizards usually have good Dex too (for AC), so it's all good.
Loki5654 10-27-06, 06:53 AM	Wizards have plenty of skill points. I always max out Tumble - a DC 15 (Dex) check to avoid AAOs from a foe. Wizards usually have good Dex too (for AC), so it's all good. Which only works if you are Tumbling through an enemies threatened area. It does you absolutely no good if you are casting a spell, which is what the OP's question was about.
Caylin 10-27-06, 07:54 AM	But couldnīt you use tumble to get out of threat range before casting?
Loki5654 10-27-06, 08:10 AM	But couldnīt you use tumble to get out of threat range before casting? Yes, but... If threatened by a mage slayer and therefore unable to cast defensively, that simply means that you provoke attacks of opportunity each time, correct? Any other drawbacks? ...the OP is asking about casting while threatened. My suggestion: bump your Concentration modifier as much as possible.
GalaGalaxia 11-03-06, 03:47 AM	Yes, but... ...the OP is asking about casting while threatened. My suggestion: bump your Concentration modifier as much as possible. ... which would do no good, in this case, as defensive casting is impossible due to the feat.
runestar 11-03-06, 04:29 AM	... which would do no good, in this case, as defensive casting is impossible due to the feat. He means to just suck up the damage and hope to pass his concentration check to successfully cast a spell while taking damage.;) I think...:P
GalaGalaxia 11-03-06, 10:37 AM	Aha! Yes, that makes sense. :)
WinDReiN 11-03-06, 12:00 PM	Greater Dimension Door allows you to move a great distance with out provoking AoO.
GalaGalaxia 11-03-06, 03:36 PM	... but it is also using up spells :)