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Trailstalker 07-20-07, 01:45 AM	I can't seem to find an answer, so someone please help me out here... I could have sworn that I read that a Wiz could cast spells straight from his spellbook without memorizing, but it had a number of penalities associated with it: longer casting time, etc. Help?
Worshiper_of_Moradin 07-20-07, 02:19 AM	I'm pretty sure they can't. But I have do RAW to back that up. I do believe it is mention some where that they can't though.
Neutronium_Dragon 07-20-07, 02:29 AM	There is no such rule in 3E. Old-E sometimes allowed this, but no current rules version.
Thane26425 07-20-07, 05:00 AM	I don't recall anything in 3.5, but in one of the older editions you could, but it was like casting from a scroll: the spell disappeared from your book.
groveborn 07-20-07, 05:57 AM	No caster can cast directly form an ordinary spell book. You may prepare spells only. You can use prepared spells to write in your spellbook, but then that spell is gone from your slot until it's reprepared. The rules require you spend Experience Points to make a spell castable from an item (such as a scroll). Since it's far cheaper to make a spellbook, things would be wonky if it were allowed. There are no rules whatsoever for allowing this, and I would advise against creating them.
Elana 07-20-07, 07:23 AM	The only way to do this, is if you still have unprepared spellslots. You can prepare a spell within 15 minutes (minimum time to prepare spells), and just cast it in direct succession. (PHB page 177. States that you can leave slots unprepared to fill later in the day (without getting another 8 hours of rest))
risner 07-22-07, 01:10 AM	I can't seem to find an answer, so someone please help me out here... I could have sworn that I read that a Wiz could cast spells straight from his spellbook without memorizing, but it had a number of penalities associated with it: longer casting time, etc. Help? 2nd edition yes. 3rd or 3.5 edition no. You can not cast any spell from a spell book directly. That is what Scrolls are designed to do.
Yokomohoyo 07-22-07, 02:36 AM	On this note could you rip out a page from a spell book and cast the given spell as a scroll? Right now Im playing a sorcerer and looted a spell book from a wizard in a fight...
Tempest Stormwind 07-22-07, 02:43 AM	Aside from the prepare-unfilled-slots idea, the closest in 3.5 is a variant from Unearthed Arcana called incantations (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/magic/incantations.htm). It's not the perfect fit, but it's closer than anything else I'm aware of. In your case, though, you're better off selling the book. Sorcerers literally have no use for spellbooks -- unless they have Scribe Scroll.
Yokomohoyo 07-22-07, 02:50 AM	Darn...It has good spells in it too... It was a level 14 wizard that we killed and Im currently a level 12 sorc.
pmurray@bigpond.com 07-22-07, 04:13 AM	On this note could you rip out a page from a spell book and cast the given spell as a scroll? No. A scroll contains a prepared spell - arcane energy primed and ready to go. A spellbook contains the incantations and stuff that you need in order to prepare particular spells.
Yokomohoyo 07-22-07, 04:28 AM	No. A scroll contains a prepared spell - arcane energy primed and ready to go. A spellbook contains the incantations and stuff that you need in order to prepare particular spells. Thank you... Guess Im gonna have either pick up scribe scroll or sell it to the highest bidder. Thanks again
risner 07-23-07, 12:27 AM	On this note could you rip out a page from a spell book and cast the given spell as a scroll? Sigh, no. What makes you think this is possible based on the text above?
groveborn 07-23-07, 04:24 AM	The only way to do this, is if you still have unprepared spellslots. You can prepare a spell within 15 minutes (minimum time to prepare spells), and just cast it in direct succession. (PHB page 177. States that you can leave slots unprepared to fill later in the day (without getting another 8 hours of rest)) Actually, that's incorrect. You may leave slots unprepared, it's true, but you may only fill them after 8 hours of rest. Clerics can fill them like that though. Just reread that section a bit more. It got me too. What a Wizard can do is leave the slots open, so that later on if they so choose, they may rest for 8 hours, then fill them up, instead of having to wait until the next day to prepare them. Sleeping 8 hours does not grant you all of your used spells again, unless it leads into the next day. Check under the spell preparation section, and you'll note that it states that preparing a spell requires 8 hours of rest...
Tempest Stormwind 07-23-07, 10:36 AM	Actually, that's incorrect. You may leave slots unprepared, it's true, but you may only fill them after 8 hours of rest. Clerics can fill them like that though. Just reread that section a bit more. It got me too. What a Wizard can do is leave the slots open, so that later on if they so choose, they may rest for 8 hours, then fill them up, instead of having to wait until the next day to prepare them. Sleeping 8 hours does not grant you all of your used spells again, unless it leads into the next day. Check under the spell preparation section, and you'll note that it states that preparing a spell requires 8 hours of rest... No, this is incorrect. Observe the SRD: When preparing spells for the day, a wizard can leave some of these spell slots open. Later during that day, she can repeat the preparation process as often as she likes, time and circumstances permitting. During these extra sessions of preparation, the wizard can fill these unused spell slots. She cannot, however, abandon a previously prepared spell to replace it with another one or fill a slot that is empty because she has cast a spell in the meantime. That sort of preparation requires a mind fresh from rest. Like the first session of the day, this preparation takes at least 15 minutes, and it takes longer if the wizard prepares more than one-quarter of her spells. Basically, rest resets all spell slots from "cast" to "empty" and allows you to empty prepared spell slots as well. At any point later in the day, you can spend 15 minutes (or more if you prepare more than a quarter of your spells, but never more than an hour) to fill an empty, uncast slot with another spell.
risner 07-23-07, 01:25 PM	Actually, that's incorrect. You may leave slots unprepared, it's true, but you may only fill them after 8 hours of rest. No, try reading the rules in the PHB. You can leave any number of slots "Open" as any prepared caster and you can fill those in with a short preparation period. Once you run out of "Open" slots, you need to wait until the next "day" and prepare spells again.
diaglo 07-27-07, 11:43 AM	Darn...It has good spells in it too... It was a level 14 wizard that we killed and Im currently a level 12 sorc. you can always sell the spellbook. a full spellbook of 100 pages is worth 5000gp
sigma999 07-27-07, 03:46 PM	Sigh, no. What makes you think this is possible based on the text above? It's called creative thinking. Maybe you're heard of it? It might not come in a pill form to help your deficit, sorry.
Cariyaga 07-27-07, 04:30 PM	That's almost worthy of being sig'd. Almost, but not quite. Try again. >_>