Casting illusionary spells while faking casting real spells. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Casting illusionary spells while faking casting real spells. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Newpaintbrush
01-23-07, 09:12 PM Suppose I cast a silenced, stilled, illusionary spell. Say Major Image.

What if I perform the verbal incantations and somatic motions for a "Fireball" spell at the same time I cast that illusionary spell?

I can only FAKE cast the fireball spell, but if someone uses Spellcraft on me, what spell do they think I am casting?

Is it opposed by a Bluff check?
Zekarra
01-24-07, 12:10 AM Great ? I would also like to know the answer.

Faking the real thing...Women are really great at this one. :D

I would think that since you covered the somatic and verbal but not material it would raise the DC of the spellcraft check. If you covered all 3 via Eshew materials or the spell not having a material component then I think you would suceed at misleading the spellcrafter.

What do the GURU's have to say??
Milo HoBo
01-24-07, 04:02 PM In my opinion, if you know the spell (in this case, Fireball) or can pass a Spellcraft check equal to identifing the spell (Fireball) then you are allowed to make the Bluff check. The Bluff check is opposed by the observers Sense Motive check.

If they fail the Sense Motive check, they use a Spellcraft check to identify Fireball. If they pass, they realize that you are actually hiding what spell is being cast. However, I think you have to be epic to identify a spell while it is being cast if it is Silenced, Stilled, and Eschewed.

I did this in a psionics campaign. I pretended to be a spellcaster so no one would know. In another psionic campaign I played a Psion that didn't know he was a Psion. He used components because he thought he was a Sorcerer.

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Newpaintbrush 01-23-07, 09:12 PM	Suppose I cast a silenced, stilled, illusionary spell. Say Major Image. What if I perform the verbal incantations and somatic motions for a "Fireball" spell at the same time I cast that illusionary spell? I can only FAKE cast the fireball spell, but if someone uses Spellcraft on me, what spell do they think I am casting? Is it opposed by a Bluff check?
Zekarra 01-24-07, 12:10 AM	Great ? I would also like to know the answer. Faking the real thing...Women are really great at this one. :D I would think that since you covered the somatic and verbal but not material it would raise the DC of the spellcraft check. If you covered all 3 via Eshew materials or the spell not having a material component then I think you would suceed at misleading the spellcrafter. What do the GURU's have to say??
Milo HoBo 01-24-07, 04:02 PM	In my opinion, if you know the spell (in this case, Fireball) or can pass a Spellcraft check equal to identifing the spell (Fireball) then you are allowed to make the Bluff check. The Bluff check is opposed by the observers Sense Motive check. If they fail the Sense Motive check, they use a Spellcraft check to identify Fireball. If they pass, they realize that you are actually hiding what spell is being cast. However, I think you have to be epic to identify a spell while it is being cast if it is Silenced, Stilled, and Eschewed. I did this in a psionics campaign. I pretended to be a spellcaster so no one would know. In another psionic campaign I played a Psion that didn't know he was a Psion. He used components because he thought he was a Sorcerer.