Charm Person and disguises [Archive] - Wizards Community

Charm Person and disguises [Archive] - Wizards Community

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WombleHunter
05-17-05, 10:27 AM If a wizard casts Charm Person on a target, and then his rogue friend uses a Hat of Disguise to appear the same as his wizard friend, is the target of the spell disposed to be friendly to the disguised rogue?

Because if not, it's an easy way for a party to tell what's going on.

And if so, that's just bizarre.
mbfu3k
05-17-05, 12:31 PM Charm Person affects the subjects feelings towards the caster. It does not grant them some sort of magical ability to always recognize the caster. Therefore, I'd say that the subject would be friendly towards anyone who they thought was the person who originally cast the spell, even if that person happens to be a rogue disguised as the caster. Likewise, if the caster later disguised himself as someone else, the charmed subject might not recognize him and thus not be friendly towards him.
Macgyver
05-17-05, 02:28 PM Seconded.
The Simbul
05-17-05, 04:55 PM Charm is an ongoing mental control effect, not a one-time suggestion for you to obey anyone who looks like Wizard X. AFAIC the target is only friendly to the caster of the Charm effect.
Someone
05-18-05, 12:42 AM I'd say that the spell only works with the caster, not "anyone who looks/ sounds/ seems like the caster". The reason is because of what happens when the spell ends- the subject's attitude reverts to what it was before the spell was cast.

So, a disguised person (or the real person if the caster was disguised) would be reacted to just as if the spell's duration had expired.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
WombleHunter 05-17-05, 10:27 AM	If a wizard casts Charm Person on a target, and then his rogue friend uses a Hat of Disguise to appear the same as his wizard friend, is the target of the spell disposed to be friendly to the disguised rogue? Because if not, it's an easy way for a party to tell what's going on. And if so, that's just bizarre.
mbfu3k 05-17-05, 12:31 PM	Charm Person affects the subjects feelings towards the caster. It does not grant them some sort of magical ability to always recognize the caster. Therefore, I'd say that the subject would be friendly towards anyone who they thought was the person who originally cast the spell, even if that person happens to be a rogue disguised as the caster. Likewise, if the caster later disguised himself as someone else, the charmed subject might not recognize him and thus not be friendly towards him.
Macgyver 05-17-05, 02:28 PM	Seconded.
The Simbul 05-17-05, 04:55 PM	Charm is an ongoing mental control effect, not a one-time suggestion for you to obey anyone who looks like Wizard X. AFAIC the target is only friendly to the caster of the Charm effect.
Someone 05-18-05, 12:42 AM	I'd say that the spell only works with the caster, not "anyone who looks/ sounds/ seems like the caster". The reason is because of what happens when the spell ends- the subject's attitude reverts to what it was before the spell was cast. So, a disguised person (or the real person if the caster was disguised) would be reacted to just as if the spell's duration had expired.