Charming Undead. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Charming Undead. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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nameneeded
03-20-08, 07:42 PM Is there a way to get Charms/ Compulsions to work on undead?

A feat?
A spell?
An item?
ArcTan
03-20-08, 07:44 PM You're looking for the Necromancy spells command undead and control undead, which are the Necromancy versions of the Enchantments charm person and dominate person.
nameneeded
03-29-08, 10:40 AM Actually I want to b able to use Irrisistable Dance on them.... any ideas?
Aleolus
03-29-08, 10:50 AM Not that I know of, sorry. Undead are immune to all mind-affecting effects, unless it specifically says that it affects undead. I'm fairly certain that Otto's Irresistible Dance is a Mind Affecting (Compulsion) effect, and does not say that it can affect undead.
runestar
03-29-08, 10:53 AM I recall a metamagic feat from an issue of dragon which let enchantment spells affect undead. Ring a bell for anyone?:P
Osedox
03-29-08, 03:11 PM Its in Crystal Keep, which is refusing to open ATM. Someone else should try their luck.
CantripN
03-29-08, 04:48 PM Yeah, Song of the Dead (Dragon Magazine) does that.

Song of the Dead (Dragon Magazine): Thanks to CantripN for finding this metamagic feat. You can modify mind-affecting spells to affect intelligent undead. This would be amazing but for 2 reasons. 1) The spell becomes a necromancy spell, so your enchantment DC boosters become useless. The snowcasting/eschew materials/draconic aura combo will still boost it, as will shadow weave magic ... but still. 2) The spell to be modified could not have specified that it affects only living creatures. This knocks out a huge bunch of enchantment spells. So, in an undead heavy campaign (like a Ravenloft campaign, for instance) this feat would definitely have its uses, and would probably be blue. Otherwise it stays black. It's a +1 metamagic.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
nameneeded 03-20-08, 07:42 PM	Is there a way to get Charms/ Compulsions to work on undead? A feat? A spell? An item?
ArcTan 03-20-08, 07:44 PM	You're looking for the Necromancy spells command undead and control undead, which are the Necromancy versions of the Enchantments charm person and dominate person.
nameneeded 03-29-08, 10:40 AM	Actually I want to b able to use Irrisistable Dance on them.... any ideas?
Aleolus 03-29-08, 10:50 AM	Not that I know of, sorry. Undead are immune to all mind-affecting effects, unless it specifically says that it affects undead. I'm fairly certain that Otto's Irresistible Dance is a Mind Affecting (Compulsion) effect, and does not say that it can affect undead.
runestar 03-29-08, 10:53 AM	I recall a metamagic feat from an issue of dragon which let enchantment spells affect undead. Ring a bell for anyone?:P
Osedox 03-29-08, 03:11 PM	Its in Crystal Keep, which is refusing to open ATM. Someone else should try their luck.
CantripN 03-29-08, 04:48 PM	Yeah, Song of the Dead (Dragon Magazine) does that. Song of the Dead (Dragon Magazine): Thanks to CantripN for finding this metamagic feat. You can modify mind-affecting spells to affect intelligent undead. This would be amazing but for 2 reasons. 1) The spell becomes a necromancy spell, so your enchantment DC boosters become useless. The snowcasting/eschew materials/draconic aura combo will still boost it, as will shadow weave magic ... but still. 2) The spell to be modified could not have specified that it affects only living creatures. This knocks out a huge bunch of enchantment spells. So, in an undead heavy campaign (like a Ravenloft campaign, for instance) this feat would definitely have its uses, and would probably be blue. Otherwise it stays black. It's a +1 metamagic.