Chill touch and Handfang [Archive] - Wizards Community

Chill touch and Handfang [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Andaer
03-03-08, 02:16 PM Handfang is a spell from Lords of darkness that makes a fanged maw grow on the caster's hand dealing damage when opponents are touched. Chill touch, as most of us know, allows you to make one touch per level. So if you have handfang cast on you, does it do the 1D8 points every time you touch with chill touch?

Additionally, if you took a level in rouge, could you not apply 1D6 sneak attack damage to every touch, since they are considered different attacks (and can even strike different enemies)? The two spells are below.

Chill Touch
Necromancy
Level: Sor/Wiz 1
Components: V, S
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Touch
Targets: Creature or creatures touched (up to one/level)
Duration: Instantaneous
Saving Throw: Fortitude partial or Will negates; see text
Spell Resistance: Yes
A touch from your hand, which glows with blue energy, disrupts the life force of living creatures. Each touch channels negative energy that deals 1d6 points of damage. The touched creature also takes 1 point of Strength damage unless it makes a successful Fortitude saving throw. You can use this melee touch attack up to one time per level.
An undead creature you touch takes no damage of either sort, but it must make a successful Will saving throw or flee as if panicked for 1d4 rounds +1 round per caster level.

3rd level: Handfang(LoD p187)(RoF p190)
<Necro[Evil], VS, 1StdAct, Personal, 1 rnd/lvl>
A fanged mouth grows on the caster’s palm. If the caster touches an opponent, it takes 1D8 damage (ref ½). If the opponent fails it’s saving throw, the caster may initiate a grapple as a Free Action without generating an attack of opportunity. If a hold is established, the mouth can continue to bite for 1D8 per round.
Goof
03-03-08, 02:30 PM The handfang and chill touch I would allow to stack, but you are not rolling to touch, but to hit.

sneak damage would also not be a touch, and also not for every attack.
Andaer
03-03-08, 02:54 PM I'm not sure what you mean. Both are attacks that require you to touch the opponent, so the touch is the attack, using the opponents touch AC.

A sneak attack is the knowledge of the opponent’s vital areas and hitting them when the opponent is unawares. Although it is a touch attack, it would translate into knowing were to touch so that the negative energy does the most damage.

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Andaer 03-03-08, 02:16 PM	Handfang is a spell from Lords of darkness that makes a fanged maw grow on the caster's hand dealing damage when opponents are touched. Chill touch, as most of us know, allows you to make one touch per level. So if you have handfang cast on you, does it do the 1D8 points every time you touch with chill touch? Additionally, if you took a level in rouge, could you not apply 1D6 sneak attack damage to every touch, since they are considered different attacks (and can even strike different enemies)? The two spells are below. Chill Touch Necromancy Level: Sor/Wiz 1 Components: V, S Casting Time: 1 standard action Range: Touch Targets: Creature or creatures touched (up to one/level) Duration: Instantaneous Saving Throw: Fortitude partial or Will negates; see text Spell Resistance: Yes A touch from your hand, which glows with blue energy, disrupts the life force of living creatures. Each touch channels negative energy that deals 1d6 points of damage. The touched creature also takes 1 point of Strength damage unless it makes a successful Fortitude saving throw. You can use this melee touch attack up to one time per level. An undead creature you touch takes no damage of either sort, but it must make a successful Will saving throw or flee as if panicked for 1d4 rounds +1 round per caster level. 3rd level: Handfang(LoD p187)(RoF p190) <Necro[Evil], VS, 1StdAct, Personal, 1 rnd/lvl> A fanged mouth grows on the caster’s palm. If the caster touches an opponent, it takes 1D8 damage (ref ½). If the opponent fails it’s saving throw, the caster may initiate a grapple as a Free Action without generating an attack of opportunity. If a hold is established, the mouth can continue to bite for 1D8 per round.
Goof 03-03-08, 02:30 PM	The handfang and chill touch I would allow to stack, but you are not rolling to touch, but to hit. sneak damage would also not be a touch, and also not for every attack.
Andaer 03-03-08, 02:54 PM	I'm not sure what you mean. Both are attacks that require you to touch the opponent, so the touch is the attack, using the opponents touch AC. A sneak attack is the knowledge of the opponent’s vital areas and hitting them when the opponent is unawares. Although it is a touch attack, it would translate into knowing were to touch so that the negative energy does the most damage.