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ZombieTonyBlair 02-02-05, 10:16 AM	I'm building a 17th level sorceror, (sorc 8, arcane devoutee 5, fate spinner 1, arch mage 3) and I was hopeing I could get some comments on my list of spells known. Remember that I have to have 3 5th and 2 6th level spells from 5 different school to qualify for archmage, and my DM doesn't want me to use spells from faerun or other campaigns, just the spells in the core books and splat books. I have the arcane reach, spell power, and mastery of elements archmage abilities. I don't want to use spells with the [evil] subtype, and would prefer to use spells with the [good] subtype, but I want to avoid spells with annoying absteneince components, like refraining from intoxicants or other fun activities. I am a gnomes, so illusion spells get much love, I have spell focus in illusion and transmutation. I have a robe of the archmagi, so I don't really need magearmor. I also don't want spells that require me to spend xp, because I want to level as fast as possible, to get 9th level spells, and my final 8th level spell, which will be polar ray. I'm going for a wide variety of spells for dealing with all kinds of situations, but I have a high spell penetration check with the Arcane Mastery feat, so I don't have to worry about spells that ignore SR unless I'm facing golems with spell immunity that works like super high SR. My favorite kinds of spells are ones with a touch attack and no save, like enervation. I might have overlooked some spells with a range of touch and no save that I can use with arcane reach. Here is my current spell list: 1st level magic missile eyes of the avoral ray of enfeeblement sheild reduce person 2nd level Resist energy Melfs acid arrow Touch of Idiocy Mirror Image See Invisibilty 3rd level Elation Dragon Scales Vampiric Touch Mirror Image 4th level Greater Invisibilty Enervation Dimensional Anchor Phantasmal Killer 5th Dismissal Teleport Sword of Deception Mass Fly 6th Greater Dispel Magic Chain Lightning Summon Monster VI 7th Delayed Blast Fireball Reverse Gravity Bigby's Crushing Hand (the one from the PH that can grapple, I might have gotten the name wrong, I'm typing this from memory) 8th Otto's Irresistable Dance Polymorph Any Object
MikeTheAmazingMuskrat 02-02-05, 12:45 PM	yo, dUde. You have Mirror Image listed as both a 2nd and 3rd level spell. What's the deal? Personally, I think most sorcerers should have Limited Wish. 300xp isn't too huge of a bite, and it's soooooo good, particularly since you are limited in what spells you can know. Leveling as quickly as possible is great and all, but all of that XP doesn't do you much good if you're dead. -mike the amazing muskrat p.s. what feats are you taking?
murte 02-02-05, 01:42 PM	Don't forget Shadow Conjuration and Shadow Evocation, it's like 28 bonus spells.
Derren S. 02-02-05, 02:16 PM	And it seems to me (don't know all of those spells) that you don't have a cheap way of flying. Wasting a 6th level spell on mass fly when you only want to fly yourself is inneffective, even for a sorcerer.
ZombieTonyBlair 02-02-05, 05:43 PM	The 3rd level spell should be major image, I mistyped, and my last character, who died, had the psionic equivolent of limited wish, and burned alot of xp into it. I have mass fly at 5th level because a member of the party has the saint templet from BoED that lets him raise a lesser globe of invurnerability as a free action with a radius of 20 feet, and all of a sudden most of the parties method of flying shuts off around him.