Cleric that can't use fire magic, so what other 4th/5th level spells are optimal... [Archive] - Wizards Community

Cleric that can't use fire magic, so what other 4th/5th level spells are optimal... [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Priest_of_Shaundakul
05-28-06, 11:02 AM for damage?

It's a cleric of Istishia, the god of water. For thematic reasons i'm not going to use any fire magic, even though though by the rules you could do such a thing.
Thiez
05-28-06, 11:10 AM Empowered Searing Light? :)

Or just inflict critical wounds. You could empower that, too.

I'd go for slay living, but that isn't really damage.
runestar
05-28-06, 11:12 AM Take energy substitution: cold... ;)
Priest_of_Shaundakul
05-28-06, 11:15 AM I agree feats could help, and have considered that course.

But i'm pressed as far as feat selection go, I need a few more to meet the requirements for a PrC...so, those are out.

Anything non-core is fine, just mention the source.This actually arose when I realized that flame strike was off limits (as you know it's a fairly popular/dependable spell)

Thanks in any event guys!
Moe
05-28-06, 11:33 AM Best damage a cleric can do: heal the warrior and keep him alive ...
DarkRhystar
05-28-06, 11:56 AM Hypothermia, Moon Bolt, and Sound Lance are all good 4th level choices. Find a copy of the Spell Compendium and check them out. :)
Thiez
05-28-06, 11:57 AM Maybe you can ask your DM if your 'flame strike' could do electricity or cold damage instead? You know, a new spell, that is just like flame strike except for the energy type. Try 'Lightning Strike' or 'Frost Strike'?
beaver1024
05-29-06, 01:19 AM You do realise don't you that clerics can research new spells just like wizards can?
smrtgmp
05-29-06, 03:34 AM The spell compendium has a solid selection of cold based cleric spells. Ice flowers is nice (as far as DD goes).
Someone
05-29-06, 02:24 PM And for multiple target spells, there's mass inflict light wounds and insect plague. Or the alignment spells: holy smite/unholy blight/chaos hammer/order's wrath.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Priest_of_Shaundakul 05-28-06, 11:02 AM	for damage? It's a cleric of Istishia, the god of water. For thematic reasons i'm not going to use any fire magic, even though though by the rules you could do such a thing.
Thiez 05-28-06, 11:10 AM	Empowered Searing Light? :) Or just inflict critical wounds. You could empower that, too. I'd go for slay living, but that isn't really damage.
runestar 05-28-06, 11:12 AM	Take energy substitution: cold... ;)
Priest_of_Shaundakul 05-28-06, 11:15 AM	I agree feats could help, and have considered that course. But i'm pressed as far as feat selection go, I need a few more to meet the requirements for a PrC...so, those are out. Anything non-core is fine, just mention the source.This actually arose when I realized that flame strike was off limits (as you know it's a fairly popular/dependable spell) Thanks in any event guys!
Moe 05-28-06, 11:33 AM	Best damage a cleric can do: heal the warrior and keep him alive ...
DarkRhystar 05-28-06, 11:56 AM	Hypothermia, Moon Bolt, and Sound Lance are all good 4th level choices. Find a copy of the Spell Compendium and check them out. :)
Thiez 05-28-06, 11:57 AM	Maybe you can ask your DM if your 'flame strike' could do electricity or cold damage instead? You know, a new spell, that is just like flame strike except for the energy type. Try 'Lightning Strike' or 'Frost Strike'?
beaver1024 05-29-06, 01:19 AM	You do realise don't you that clerics can research new spells just like wizards can?
smrtgmp 05-29-06, 03:34 AM	The spell compendium has a solid selection of cold based cleric spells. Ice flowers is nice (as far as DD goes).
Someone 05-29-06, 02:24 PM	And for multiple target spells, there's mass inflict light wounds and insect plague. Or the alignment spells: holy smite/unholy blight/chaos hammer/order's wrath.