Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Emir 01-26-04, 05:02 AM	Well, I have a Sorcerrer. I bought the Cloak of Charisma +6 :) And I'm considering buying the Ioun Stone that grants you +2 to Charisma. So...If I put on Cloak of Charisma and the Ioun Stone...Do the effects stack?
Heron_Marked_Blade 01-26-04, 05:25 AM	Considering that both the Ioun Stone of Charisma and the Cloak of Charisma grant enhancement bonuses, no, they don't stack. Enhancement bonuses to the same ability do not stack. The highest bonus "overwrites" the lower one.
Emir 01-26-04, 05:35 AM	Thanx a lot!!! :)
tarkin 01-29-04, 10:41 AM	If you look around there is a thing that grants a competence bonus to Charisma in most circumstances. That WILL stack with either of them.
Bjorn the Wanderer 01-29-04, 10:58 AM	Originally posted by tarkin If you look around there is a thing that grants a competence bonus to Charisma in most circumstances. That WILL stack with either of them. I think you are talking about the circlet of persuasion. If I recall correctly. Later, Bjorn
kedi 01-29-04, 11:48 AM	If you have that much gp, consider buying a tome of influence, grants "permanent" charisma bonus. :D The bard has sang!
mercurial67 01-29-04, 01:37 PM	Originally posted by Bjorn the Wanderer I think you are talking about the circlet of persuasion. If I recall correctly.The circlet grants a +3 to charisma checks. It doesn't increase the charisma itself.
primemover003 01-29-04, 04:26 PM	Tomes & Manuals (whatever happened to Librams?) provide an inherent ability increase, as can the Wish spell. From the SRD: Inherent bonuses are instantaneous, so they cannot be dispelled. Note: An inherent bonus may not exceed +5 for a single ability score, and inherent bonuses to a particular ability score do not stack, so only the best one applies.
Bjorn the Wanderer 01-29-04, 05:25 PM	Originally posted by mercurial67 The circlet grants a +3 to charisma checks. It doesn't increase the charisma itself. Exactly. While not an actual increase in the stas it basically applies all the same benifts of have a +6 charisma in many cases. Later, Bjorn
Hypersmurf 01-29-04, 08:08 PM	Originally posted by mercurial67 The circlet grants a +3 to charisma checks. It doesn't increase the charisma itself. For a Competence bonus to Charisma, you need the Command special armor ability from Defenders of the Faith. Not, mind, the Command special armor ability from Arms and Equipment Guide, which provides a Competence bonus to Charisma checks. -Hyp.
Seeker95 01-29-04, 11:11 PM	Originally posted by Hypersmurf For a Competence bonus to Charisma, you need the Command special armor ability from Defenders of the Faith.[...] the Command special armor ability from Arms and Equipment Guide, [...] provides a Competence bonus to Charisma checks. And if you're feeling especially greedy, get your hands on a suit of armor with +5 versions of both, and throw in the Tome of Leadership +5. You end up with an inherent increase to Charisma of +5, a Competence bonus of +5, and a Competence bonus of +5 to Charisma-based checks! (Please forgive me. The rarely-seen munchkin in me just got out for a few minutes. :devil:
Ehelonna 01-30-04, 03:22 AM	Originally posted by Bjorn the Wanderer Exactly. While not an actual increase in the stas it basically applies all the same benifts of have a +6 charisma in many cases. The one important thing that it does not apply to is the DC for spells. It does apply to your fascinate abiltity though since that save DC is set by your perform check, which is affected by that item. :D