Cloak of Displacement, "True" [Archive] - Wizards Community

Cloak of Displacement, "True" [Archive] - Wizards Community

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NeueRegel
08-23-07, 11:46 AM 3.5 Core rules game.

I want to create a Cloak of Displacement that combines the exact effects of both the Minor and the Major versions, and call it a "Cloak of Displacement, True". In other words, the 20% miss chance continuously, and the option to kick in the 50% miss chance for 15 rounds per day. I am not suggesting in any way, shape, or form, that they stack; only that it is either 20% OR 50%, as desired.

Here is all of the relevant information. What interpretation of these rules should I apply for figuring the market price?

Cloak of Displacement, Minor: This item appears to be a normal cloak, but when worn by a character its magical properties distort and warp light waves. This displacement works similar to the displacement spell except that it only grants a 20% miss chance on attacks against the wearer. It functions continually.
Faint illusion; CL 3rd; Craft Wondrous Item, displacement; Price 24,000 gp;Weight 1 lb.
Cloak of Displacement, Major: This item appears to be a normal cloak, but on command its magical properties distort and warp light waves. This displacement works just like the displacement spell and lasts for a total of 15 rounds per day, which the wearer can divide up as she sees fit.
Moderate illusion; CL 7th; Craft Wondrous Item, Extend Spell, displacement; Price 50,000 gp;Weight 1 lb.

ADDING NEW ABILITIES
A creator can add new magical abilities to a magic item with no restrictions. The cost to do this is the same as if the item was not magical. Thus, a +1 longsword can be made into a +2 vorpal longsword, with the cost to create it being equal to that of a +2 vorpal sword minus the cost of a +1 sword.
If the item is one that occupies a specific place on a character’s body the cost of adding any additional ability to that item increases by 50%. For example, if a character adds the power to confer invisibility to her ring of protection +2, the cost of adding this ability is the same as for creating a ring of invisibility multiplied by 1.5.

Multiple Similar Abilities: For items with multiple similar abilities that don’t take up space on a character’s body use the following formula: Calculate the price of the single most costly ability, then add 75% of the value of the next most costly ability, plus one-half the value of any other abilities.
Multiple Different Abilities: Abilities such as an attack roll bonus or saving throw bonus and a spell-like function are not similar, and their values are simply added together to determine the cost. For items that do take up a space on a character’s body each additional power not only has no discount but instead has a 50% increase in price.

Thanks in advance,
Neue
tarkin
08-23-07, 11:56 AM This takes a space on the PC (Cloak), so you do not get the "Multiple Similar ability rule"
(I find that rule best for things like rods that use one set of charges for multiple things)

Minor Cloak = 24,000

Major Cloak = 50,000

Combined =

50K + 24k*3/2

Total price = 50+36 = 86,000 gp.

Step 1: Turn them both into Iounstones: 100k for Major, 48 k for Minor.
Step 2: Combine them as similar = 100k + 48*.75 = 136,000 gp for an Ioun Stone that makes you always get 20% and for 15 rounds you get 50%

P.S. You can't take 136/2 to get 68k for a cloak that does what the Ioun stone does.
PhaedrusXY
08-23-07, 12:38 PM Why would you turn both of them into Ioun Stones? You'd be better off only turning the cheapest one into an Ioun Stone.

The best option is to combine them as Tarkin indicated first, though.

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NeueRegel 08-23-07, 11:46 AM	3.5 Core rules game. I want to create a Cloak of Displacement that combines the exact effects of both the Minor and the Major versions, and call it a "Cloak of Displacement, True". In other words, the 20% miss chance continuously, and the option to kick in the 50% miss chance for 15 rounds per day. I am not suggesting in any way, shape, or form, that they stack; only that it is either 20% OR 50%, as desired. Here is all of the relevant information. What interpretation of these rules should I apply for figuring the market price? Cloak of Displacement, Minor: This item appears to be a normal cloak, but when worn by a character its magical properties distort and warp light waves. This displacement works similar to the displacement spell except that it only grants a 20% miss chance on attacks against the wearer. It functions continually. Faint illusion; CL 3rd; Craft Wondrous Item, displacement; Price 24,000 gp;Weight 1 lb. Cloak of Displacement, Major: This item appears to be a normal cloak, but on command its magical properties distort and warp light waves. This displacement works just like the displacement spell and lasts for a total of 15 rounds per day, which the wearer can divide up as she sees fit. Moderate illusion; CL 7th; Craft Wondrous Item, Extend Spell, displacement; Price 50,000 gp;Weight 1 lb. ADDING NEW ABILITIES A creator can add new magical abilities to a magic item with no restrictions. The cost to do this is the same as if the item was not magical. Thus, a +1 longsword can be made into a +2 vorpal longsword, with the cost to create it being equal to that of a +2 vorpal sword minus the cost of a +1 sword. If the item is one that occupies a specific place on a character’s body the cost of adding any additional ability to that item increases by 50%. For example, if a character adds the power to confer invisibility to her ring of protection +2, the cost of adding this ability is the same as for creating a ring of invisibility multiplied by 1.5. Multiple Similar Abilities: For items with multiple similar abilities that don’t take up space on a character’s body use the following formula: Calculate the price of the single most costly ability, then add 75% of the value of the next most costly ability, plus one-half the value of any other abilities. Multiple Different Abilities: Abilities such as an attack roll bonus or saving throw bonus and a spell-like function are not similar, and their values are simply added together to determine the cost. For items that do take up a space on a character’s body each additional power not only has no discount but instead has a 50% increase in price. Thanks in advance, Neue
tarkin 08-23-07, 11:56 AM	This takes a space on the PC (Cloak), so you do not get the "Multiple Similar ability rule" (I find that rule best for things like rods that use one set of charges for multiple things) Minor Cloak = 24,000 Major Cloak = 50,000 Combined = 50K + 24k3/2 Total price = 50+36 = 86,000 gp. Step 1: Turn them both into Iounstones: 100k for Major, 48 k for Minor. Step 2: Combine them as similar = 100k + 48.75 = 136,000 gp for an Ioun Stone that makes you always get 20% and for 15 rounds you get 50% P.S. You can't take 136/2 to get 68k for a cloak that does what the Ioun stone does.
PhaedrusXY 08-23-07, 12:38 PM	Why would you turn both of them into Ioun Stones? You'd be better off only turning the cheapest one into an Ioun Stone. The best option is to combine them as Tarkin indicated first, though.