completely undetectable [Archive] - Wizards Community

completely undetectable [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
dralin
09-07-05, 10:02 AM Is there any way to be completely undetectable, even by true sight and arcane sight? Such as by use of items and/or spells
Sproik
09-07-05, 10:07 AM You could not turn up. They'd never spot you...
dralin
09-07-05, 10:10 AM Well that is one way, but i was planeing on being there and still not be detected by any means
IMarvinTPA
09-07-05, 10:22 AM It isn't perfectly written, bust most people agree that nondetection helps spoil see invis and true seeing. Although it becomes a caster level contest and not a perfect defense. (But better than going around thinking you're invisible.)

IMarv
Lord shadow35
09-07-05, 10:26 AM Well, mindblank is probably what you want. 8th level spell Abjuration. PHB. But if you play low level i would use nondetection. Mindblank even stops disern Location.
Radijs
09-07-05, 10:58 AM I know of some kind of greater improved invisibility from complete arcane. It shields you from everything except true seeing.
Blindsense doesnt work. You cannot be heard you cannot be smelt.
Lord shadow35
09-07-05, 11:17 AM Supreme invisibility is the spell to which you refer.
Beamup
09-07-05, 11:22 AM Dust of Disappearance is what you're looking for.
dralin
09-07-05, 03:56 PM Well from the looks of haveing Mind Blank, Nondetectoin, and Superior Invisibility should do it. So now the question is, is there any way to detect someone under the effects of those three spells? Oh and by the way they'll always be flying so no footprints.

Edit: can Mind blank and Nondetction be made permanent?
Dragonsblood
09-07-05, 05:28 PM Amulet of Proof Against Detection something something. It's in the SRD. Around 30k gp to buy.
Derren S.
09-07-05, 05:41 PM Well from the looks of haveing Mind Blank, Nondetectoin, and Superior Invisibility should do it. So now the question is, is there any way to detect someone under the effects of those three spells? Oh and by the way they'll always be flying so no footprints.

Edit: can Mind blank and Nondetction be made permanent?

Flour and other mundane dust or fog, rain, blindsight, clearsight
Radijs
09-07-05, 06:00 PM Flour and other mundane dust or fog, rain, blindsight, clearsight
Blindsight and clearsight are stopped by the superior invisibility. Only true sight works against it.
A fly spell will let you float over the surface to avoid leaving tracks in the mud or on the dusty floor.

Falling rain or other mundane substances do not affect any of the invisibility spells.
Derren S.
09-07-05, 06:03 PM Blindsight is not stopped by superior invisibility only blindsense and clearsight is unstopable but rare (10th level PRC EX ability). And show me where it says that rain or a flour cloud doesn't affect invisibility. The water/flour is not tucked under the clothing and therefor visible.
Rhadamanthus
09-07-05, 08:05 PM I know Epic magic can. You could use the Conceal seed, I know that you can do what you require with a relatively low spellcraft DC. With a higher one (or less, depending on mitigating factors) you can make it permanent. Yep, you could be permanently invisible regardless of actions and undetectable by divination magic. That's how cool Epic spells are.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
dralin 09-07-05, 10:02 AM	Is there any way to be completely undetectable, even by true sight and arcane sight? Such as by use of items and/or spells
Sproik 09-07-05, 10:07 AM	You could not turn up. They'd never spot you...
dralin 09-07-05, 10:10 AM	Well that is one way, but i was planeing on being there and still not be detected by any means
IMarvinTPA 09-07-05, 10:22 AM	It isn't perfectly written, bust most people agree that nondetection helps spoil see invis and true seeing. Although it becomes a caster level contest and not a perfect defense. (But better than going around thinking you're invisible.) IMarv
Lord shadow35 09-07-05, 10:26 AM	Well, mindblank is probably what you want. 8th level spell Abjuration. PHB. But if you play low level i would use nondetection. Mindblank even stops disern Location.
Radijs 09-07-05, 10:58 AM	I know of some kind of greater improved invisibility from complete arcane. It shields you from everything except true seeing. Blindsense doesnt work. You cannot be heard you cannot be smelt.
Lord shadow35 09-07-05, 11:17 AM	Supreme invisibility is the spell to which you refer.
Beamup 09-07-05, 11:22 AM	Dust of Disappearance is what you're looking for.
dralin 09-07-05, 03:56 PM	Well from the looks of haveing Mind Blank, Nondetectoin, and Superior Invisibility should do it. So now the question is, is there any way to detect someone under the effects of those three spells? Oh and by the way they'll always be flying so no footprints. Edit: can Mind blank and Nondetction be made permanent?
Dragonsblood 09-07-05, 05:28 PM	Amulet of Proof Against Detection something something. It's in the SRD. Around 30k gp to buy.
Derren S. 09-07-05, 05:41 PM	Well from the looks of haveing Mind Blank, Nondetectoin, and Superior Invisibility should do it. So now the question is, is there any way to detect someone under the effects of those three spells? Oh and by the way they'll always be flying so no footprints. Edit: can Mind blank and Nondetction be made permanent? Flour and other mundane dust or fog, rain, blindsight, clearsight
Radijs 09-07-05, 06:00 PM	Flour and other mundane dust or fog, rain, blindsight, clearsight Blindsight and clearsight are stopped by the superior invisibility. Only true sight works against it. A fly spell will let you float over the surface to avoid leaving tracks in the mud or on the dusty floor. Falling rain or other mundane substances do not affect any of the invisibility spells.
Derren S. 09-07-05, 06:03 PM	Blindsight is not stopped by superior invisibility only blindsense and clearsight is unstopable but rare (10th level PRC EX ability). And show me where it says that rain or a flour cloud doesn't affect invisibility. The water/flour is not tucked under the clothing and therefor visible.
Rhadamanthus 09-07-05, 08:05 PM	I know Epic magic can. You could use the Conceal seed, I know that you can do what you require with a relatively low spellcraft DC. With a higher one (or less, depending on mitigating factors) you can make it permanent. Yep, you could be permanently invisible regardless of actions and undetectable by divination magic. That's how cool Epic spells are.