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Damned slayer 09-23-06, 02:54 PM	I was wondering what happend if I reflected implosion? does the spell ends cause caster ends concentration or does he have to suffer the 1st round and choses other targets after or does I seize controll of the spell?? sames goes for all concentration spells
Ainamacar 09-23-06, 03:23 PM	The SRD says the following about spells with duration concentration. The spell lasts as long as you concentrate on it. Concentrating to maintain a spell is a standard action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity. Anything that could break your concentration when casting a spell can also break your concentration while you’re maintaining one, causing the spell to end. And this about concentration in general. If you are affected by a spell while attempting to cast a spell of your own, you must make a Concentration check or lose the spell you are casting. If the spell affecting you deals damage, the DC is 10 + points of damage + the level of the spell you’re casting. If the spell interferes with you or distracts you in some other way, the DC is the spell’s saving throw DC + the level of the spell you’re casting. For a spell with no saving throw, it’s the DC that the spell’s saving throw would have if a save were allowed. If one thinks that implosion is distracting to a targeted character (which seems pretty much indisputable, what with "save or die") the original caster would have to make a concentration check or lose his concentration to maintain the spell. Now, since turning always assumes the spell being turned has already been cast (otherwise, what are you turning?) the original caster must make his save to live first, and if that is successful a concentration check to see if he can maintain the spell. If he succeeds on the Concentration check, he can choose to concentrate on the spell the next round as normal. If he fails, the spell ends right there. You definitely do not sieze control of the spell, unless you have that ability from some other source that applies in the situation described above.
Thiez 09-23-06, 03:27 PM	Kind of cool, though, that the spell can only be turned once. After it's been turned, it cannot affect the caster again :) What happens if you turn the same Implosion on the caster a second time (assuming the caster made the first save)?
Damned slayer 09-23-06, 03:52 PM	you cannnot target the same person twice with the same implosion spell tks for the answer it was what I tought but my DM was contradicting it he didnt wanted me to have the chance to kill is PL on his own plane on the 1st round lol