Confirmation about necrotic skull bomb... [Archive] - Wizards Community

Confirmation about necrotic skull bomb... [Archive] - Wizards Community

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runestar
11-25-06, 09:43 PM Has there been any errata for this spell?
It is a 5th lv spell from champions of ruin, area affect, all targets in its area suffer 1d4 negative lvs if they fail their fort save. This already comes off as a fair 5th lv spell, until I noted that it's casting time was 1 swift action...:eek:

Is that really the case? Or too good to be true?:) Thanks in advance for your help.
smrtgmp
11-25-06, 10:21 PM holy crap. I've looked over that spell a dozen times and never noticed the casting time. I guess I just assumed it would be a standard action. I had always been leery of casting it because it was fort negates, but this changes everything. :eek:

talk about a great preface to a highly save dependant spell or as a way to nerf a group of enemy spellcasters (or both).

and I haven't seen any eratta.
runestar
11-25-06, 10:30 PM I was wondering that since the spell mentions that you must hurl the skull, whether casting it was 1 swift action, but the act of "throwing the skull" constituted a standard action or not. But perhaps I am simply reading too much into it.

Or maybe its just my brain refusing to process reality...:P

Swift action area affect enervation...:cloud9: The possibilities with this spell are endless...
smrtgmp
11-25-06, 10:46 PM I was wondering that since the spell mentions that you must hurl the skull, whether casting it was 1 swift action, but the act of "throwing the skull" constituted a standard action or not.That was my first thought when I read your thread, but I double checked the spell and it makes no mention of taking an addional action to throw it. Furthermore, it has short range rather than the range incraments of a thrown weapon.
Swift action area affect enervation...:cloud9: The possibilities with this spell are endless...Not quite an area effect enervation, given that it allows a save. But yeah. Seriously awesome.
TheCobra
11-26-06, 07:24 PM I asked about this in the Forgotten Realms forum and it seems that there isn't any errata. I had a PC take this spell, but he assumed the swift action thing was misprint and/or too good. It seems like an decent spell with a standard action casting time, so that's what we went with.
smrtgmp
11-27-06, 03:41 AM I wouldn't use it as a standard action. I would if it was fort half, but not fort negates.

But to each his own. :)
TheCobra
11-27-06, 10:18 AM Nerfing it was actually the player's idea, not mine. He plays a necromancer, and likes giving all the undead minions 5-20 temp hp. That makes it easily worth a standard action.
tarkin
11-27-06, 01:54 PM I would House Rule that while casting the spell was a standard action, it still took a regular attack action to throw the skull.
smrtgmp
11-27-06, 06:12 PM Nerfing it was actually the player's idea, not mine. He plays a necromancer, and likes giving all the undead minions 5-20 temp hp. That makes it easily worth a standard action.Ahh...for such a character it would be far more useful than it would be for your average caster.
smrtgmp
11-27-06, 06:14 PM I would House Rule that while casting the spell was a standard action, it still took a regular attack action to throw the skull.do you mean a swift action to cast and an attack action to throw? Cause otherwise you're looking at the spell taking 2 rounds to use.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
runestar 11-25-06, 09:43 PM	Has there been any errata for this spell? It is a 5th lv spell from champions of ruin, area affect, all targets in its area suffer 1d4 negative lvs if they fail their fort save. This already comes off as a fair 5th lv spell, until I noted that it's casting time was 1 swift action...:eek: Is that really the case? Or too good to be true?:) Thanks in advance for your help.
smrtgmp 11-25-06, 10:21 PM	holy crap. I've looked over that spell a dozen times and never noticed the casting time. I guess I just assumed it would be a standard action. I had always been leery of casting it because it was fort negates, but this changes everything. :eek: talk about a great preface to a highly save dependant spell or as a way to nerf a group of enemy spellcasters (or both). and I haven't seen any eratta.
runestar 11-25-06, 10:30 PM	I was wondering that since the spell mentions that you must hurl the skull, whether casting it was 1 swift action, but the act of "throwing the skull" constituted a standard action or not. But perhaps I am simply reading too much into it. Or maybe its just my brain refusing to process reality...:P Swift action area affect enervation...:cloud9: The possibilities with this spell are endless...
smrtgmp 11-25-06, 10:46 PM	I was wondering that since the spell mentions that you must hurl the skull, whether casting it was 1 swift action, but the act of "throwing the skull" constituted a standard action or not.That was my first thought when I read your thread, but I double checked the spell and it makes no mention of taking an addional action to throw it. Furthermore, it has short range rather than the range incraments of a thrown weapon. Swift action area affect enervation...:cloud9: The possibilities with this spell are endless...Not quite an area effect enervation, given that it allows a save. But yeah. Seriously awesome.
TheCobra 11-26-06, 07:24 PM	I asked about this in the Forgotten Realms forum and it seems that there isn't any errata. I had a PC take this spell, but he assumed the swift action thing was misprint and/or too good. It seems like an decent spell with a standard action casting time, so that's what we went with.
smrtgmp 11-27-06, 03:41 AM	I wouldn't use it as a standard action. I would if it was fort half, but not fort negates. But to each his own. :)
TheCobra 11-27-06, 10:18 AM	Nerfing it was actually the player's idea, not mine. He plays a necromancer, and likes giving all the undead minions 5-20 temp hp. That makes it easily worth a standard action.
tarkin 11-27-06, 01:54 PM	I would House Rule that while casting the spell was a standard action, it still took a regular attack action to throw the skull.
smrtgmp 11-27-06, 06:12 PM	Nerfing it was actually the player's idea, not mine. He plays a necromancer, and likes giving all the undead minions 5-20 temp hp. That makes it easily worth a standard action.Ahh...for such a character it would be far more useful than it would be for your average caster.
smrtgmp 11-27-06, 06:14 PM	I would House Rule that while casting the spell was a standard action, it still took a regular attack action to throw the skull.do you mean a swift action to cast and an attack action to throw? Cause otherwise you're looking at the spell taking 2 rounds to use.