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Herr Doktor 01-03-04, 09:38 PM	The PHB says that darkness spells can be dispelled by light spells of higher level. Does that mean bringing a continual flame torch into an area of magical darkness might cause the darkness to dispel or be supressed?
ikkonoishi 01-03-04, 10:03 PM	darkness is 2nd level continual flame is 2nd level darkness supresses 2nd level and less spells... You make the call.
Seeker95 01-03-04, 11:08 PM	In my campaign, we rule that the original source is suppressed by the new source for equal level spells. A continual flame will suppress darkness if it is brought into the area affected by darkness. A darkness spell will suppress the effects of a continual flame if brought (or cast) into its radius of light.
ikkonoishi 01-04-04, 12:07 AM	Originally posted by Seeker95 In my campaign, we rule that the original source is suppressed by the new source for equal level spells. A continual flame will suppress darkness if it is brought into the area affected by darkness. A darkness spell will suppress the effects of a continual flame if brought (or cast) into its radius of light. Thats a good house rule, but the darkness spell specifically says otherwise.
kreynolds 01-04-04, 10:28 AM	Yup. Continual flame and darkness negate each other in the overlapping area, meaning normal lighting conditions apply in the area of overlap. It doesn't actually matter which one is brought into what or which one was present first.
Seeker95 01-04-04, 04:10 PM	Originally posted by ikkonoishi Thats a good house rule, but the darkness spell specifically says otherwise. How insightful! Especially when the quoted material begins in my campaign, we rule... I don't think anybody would have associated "in my campaign" with "house rule" without such elucidation.
chemadam2 01-04-04, 06:08 PM	whoah there... when we start using words like "elucidation" you know the thread is in trouble The way i see it is that an everburning torch fades away when it enters an area of magical darkness, and sputters back to life when it exits. The target of darkness is an area... i just don't see a spell, allready cast targeting a single item, negating the effects of an area spell. Perhaps if you cast continuall flame directly on the darkness center it would cancell the spell... a bit of overkill. I suggest casting light, a known counter to darkness and 0th lvl spell, when dealing with magical darkenss. If the CL of the continual flame is 3rd or higher, you could say that it persists throughout a darkness spell of a lesser caster. On another note, would an item with continual flame be dispelled of the enchantment by a darkness spell cast directly on the item, or merely supressed for the darkness's duration? so much time, so little to do
zodiki 01-04-04, 06:22 PM	Originally posted by kreynolds Yup. Continual flame and darkness negate each other in the overlapping area, meaning normal lighting conditions apply in the area of overlap. It doesn't actually matter which one is brought into what or which one was present first. This is correct. Unless of course it's a Cleric spell - then CF wins - right?