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Tesserax 01-23-07, 12:45 PM	I remember hearing or reading about something that would allow two spellcasters to cooperate on creating a magic item. If I remember correctly, this option would allow for the person with the feat to create an item that he does not have the spell for (truly essential for sorcerors). My questions are these: Does this rule exist anywhere? Is it a variant rule or is it a feat? What book is this from?
TheGogmagog 01-23-07, 01:01 PM	I don't see it in SRD (quick look), but have read it several times in the DMG right before Magic Arms and Armor. Yes, 100% sure a wizard can cooperate with a wizard to create a divine scroll (or any other item with divine spell requirements). The debatable points are: Is caster level a prerequisite, Is experience a prerequisite, Is gold a prerequisite? If the following two are true then any character could contribute experience to have thier own items created. It's a bit of a stretch, but as a DM I like not punishing the caster for first taking the feat, then again for being the parties craft monkey.
PhaedrusXY 01-23-07, 01:24 PM	Only one of them is considered to be the item's Creator, and that person pays all the XP cost. Other than that, anyone else can donate any other prerequisites. Here is the relevant text from the SRD: Prerequisites Certain requirements must be met in order for a character to create a magic item. These include feats, spells, and miscellaneous requirements such as level, alignment, and race or kind. The prerequisites for creation of an item are given immediately following the item’s caster level. A spell prerequisite may be provided by a character who has prepared the spell (or who knows the spell, in the case of a sorcerer or bard), or through the use of a spell completion or spell trigger magic item or a spell-like ability that produces the desired spell effect. For each day that passes in the creation process, the creator must expend one spell completion item or one charge from a spell trigger item if either of those objects is used to supply a prerequisite. It is possible for more than one character to cooperate in the creation of an item, with each participant providing one or more of the prerequisites. In some cases, cooperation may even be necessary. If two or more characters cooperate to create an item, they must agree among themselves who will be considered the creator for the purpose of determinations where the creator’s level must be known. The character designated as the creator pays the XP required to make the item. Typically, a list of prerequisites includes one feat and one or more spells (or some other requirement in addition to the feat). When two spells at the end of a list are separated by "or," one of those spells is required in addition to every other spell mentioned prior to the last two.
Seeker95 01-23-07, 01:25 PM	Variant rules in Unearthed Arcana more fully detail ways cooperation can be implemented. But the DMG item construction guidelines implicitly require it for some of the staves that exist, since they contain both divine and arcane spells in the same item. TheGogmagog has outlined the ambiguities in this process quite well.