Could a Greater Shadow Evocation + Wall of Force do this [Archive] - Wizards Community

Could a Greater Shadow Evocation + Wall of Force do this [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Red_Rabbit
10-27-06, 11:30 PM Lets say a building was coming down and I cast Greater Shadow Evocation and used it to make a "Wall of Force" would that Wall of Force have a 40% chance to protect me from the falling rumble or would the rumble go through the spell.

I'm looking at the Shadow Evo and Conj to see if I could accually live with them.

The Rabbit
DM Zoc
10-28-06, 12:47 AM It would probably just protect you from 40% of the rubble, so rubble that would have hit you for 20d6 damage and a reflex save to avoid being buried will now hit you for 12d6 damage and grant a +4 bonus on the reflex save (or make it a reflex save to avoid being partially buried).
MareltEkiran
10-28-06, 01:04 AM Well... technically speaking, Wall of Force must be a vertical plane, so it probably wouldn't protect you from falling rubble at all.

That being said, I always houserule that part away... force has no mass and should therefore be independant of gravity, so why on earth can it only be vertical?

As for the actual spell in question. Greater Shadow Evocation is based on Shadow Evocation. I quote from the spell description:

"Nondamaging effects, such as gust of wind, have normal effects except against those who disbelieve them. Against disbelievers, they have no effect.
Objects automatically succeed on their Will saves against this spell."

That makes it pretty clear that an object (such as falling stone) would just completely ignore the effect.

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Red_Rabbit 10-27-06, 11:30 PM	Lets say a building was coming down and I cast Greater Shadow Evocation and used it to make a "Wall of Force" would that Wall of Force have a 40% chance to protect me from the falling rumble or would the rumble go through the spell. I'm looking at the Shadow Evo and Conj to see if I could accually live with them. The Rabbit
DM Zoc 10-28-06, 12:47 AM	It would probably just protect you from 40% of the rubble, so rubble that would have hit you for 20d6 damage and a reflex save to avoid being buried will now hit you for 12d6 damage and grant a +4 bonus on the reflex save (or make it a reflex save to avoid being partially buried).
MareltEkiran 10-28-06, 01:04 AM	Well... technically speaking, Wall of Force must be a vertical plane, so it probably wouldn't protect you from falling rubble at all. That being said, I always houserule that part away... force has no mass and should therefore be independant of gravity, so why on earth can it only be vertical? As for the actual spell in question. Greater Shadow Evocation is based on Shadow Evocation. I quote from the spell description: "Nondamaging effects, such as gust of wind, have normal effects except against those who disbelieve them. Against disbelievers, they have no effect. Objects automatically succeed on their Will saves against this spell." That makes it pretty clear that an object (such as falling stone) would just completely ignore the effect.