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Frobi-Wan Kenobi 06-09-05, 04:42 PM	Psionic Skills - can they be placed on your expension list? Homunculus - Is there a limit too how many an Artificer can have? Is their cost reduced by the Craft Construct feat & Extraordinary Artisan like other magical items? Official answers are what I'm looking for but unofficial might help too.
morbosia 06-09-05, 06:43 PM	as far as i know, there is no upper cap to the number of homunculi you may have at any 1 time. my memory is drawn to an adventure i once read..... in it there was a wizard, working for a paranoid king that had an army of homunculi watching the local population of the city. he secretly worked for the local thieves guild as well, using his tiny constructs to steal things. i hope this gives you an answer.
Frobi-Wan Kenobi 06-10-05, 05:50 PM	Thanks morbosia. I know that the Eberron Setting as a whole doesn't limit the number of Homunculi that an Artificer might have - I just want to know if the Mark of Heroes campaign is going to limit them.
Frobi-Wan Kenobi 06-22-05, 04:11 PM	Anyone have an idea? Tim_Rat?
TimRat 06-22-05, 06:15 PM	i have a call in so i'll check with them.
TimRat 06-24-05, 05:51 PM	ok the psionic skills..if your a kalashtar you pretty much get entire access to the psionics book so ya there already yours so you dont need to put them on their. unless of course it says in the guidelines that all that is restricted or something like that. but if your a psionic you got tehm already. you may have only 1 homunculi at a time. thats the official answer.
Frobi-Wan Kenobi 06-25-05, 02:32 AM	Thanks TimRat. To be more specific on the Psionic skills question: I'm asking for non-Kalashtar PCs. Can skills like Knowledge (Psionics), Psicraft and Use Psionic Device which are usable by non psionic characters be placed on the expansion list or are they to be treated like the spells in the XPH? Also, is the price for crafting a Homunculus reduced by the Craft Construct & Extraordinary Artisan feats?
DoveArrow 06-27-05, 06:01 PM	Well, the Campaign Standards document doesn't specifically exclude them, but it doesn't exactly say it's okay to include them either. It's a tough call.
DBlizzard 06-27-05, 11:41 PM	To be more specific on the Psionic skills question: I'm asking for non-Kalashtar PCs. Can skills like Knowledge (Psionics), Psicraft and Use Psionic Device which are usable by non psionic characters be placed on the expansion list or are they to be treated like the spells in the XPH? Well, since the Psionics Handbook isn't on the Secondary Sources list, it isn't something you can put on your expansion list.
jeffpicard 06-28-05, 11:02 PM	Well, since the Psionics Handbook isn't on the Secondary Sources list, it isn't something you can put on your expansion list. uh, the expanded psionics handbook IS on the secondary source list... in fact it's the 3rd item listed under optional materials on page 2, and then has some extra mention at the end (that the spells and cleric doamins at the end are available without needing to be on an expansion list) nothing anywhere mentions skills unfortunatly
IceV2 07-01-05, 10:44 PM	In MoH only Kalashtar can be psionic PCs. To play a Kalashtar you need to expend their Creation Card from your Campaing Cards. If you don't have it you can't play a psionic character in any way. You can place an item (a feat, class, prestige class or skill) in your expansion list only if the item is no restricted and if the source is accepted in the campaign (see the latest Campaign Setting to check this). There's no limit on how much homunculus you can create. The limis is your capacity (and the cost :D, see the Campaing Standart for that). Renember that: A. You lost the items wich aren't in your equipment at the start of the adventure (they become GP). B. You have a GP limit about how much you can expend by level. You can know all this only reading the MoH Campaing Standart document. :D
Frobi-Wan Kenobi 07-02-05, 01:12 AM	In MoH only Kalashtar can be psionic PCs. To play a Kalashtar you need to expend their Creation Card from your Campaing Cards. If you don't have it you can't play a psionic character in any way. The question isn't about playing a psionic character - it's about using certain skills that are related to psionics. Examples: Knowledge(Psionics), Psicraft, and Use Psionic Device. You can place an item (a feat, class, prestige class or skill) in your expansion list only if the item is no restricted and if the source is accepted in the campaign (see the latest Campaign Setting to check this). Could you please point out where the document says that skills can be placed on a PC's expansion list. I can't seem to find it. There's no limit on how much homunculus you can create. The limis is your capacity (and the cost :D, see the Campaing Standart for that). TimRat, the official RPGA answer man has answered the question regarding the number of homunculi that an Artificer can have: you may have only 1 homunculi at a time. thats the official answer.
IceV2 07-02-05, 08:28 AM	Could you please point out where the document says that skills can be placed on a PC's expansion list. I can't seem to find it. There is not, my mistake (I didn't review the list). But, in the EPH says that only psionic characters have those skills (page 4) and since only the Kalashtar can take psionic classes in MoH you have to be a Kalashtar to have those skills. TimRat, the official RPGA answer man has answered the question regarding the number of homunculi that an Artificer can have. Sorry, I didn't read all the posts :D . I'm new in this forum.
Frobi-Wan Kenobi 07-02-05, 10:59 AM	I'm not talking about Autohypnosis which you'd have to be a psionic character to benefit putting any ranks into that skill. My point is that the spells in the back of the XPH are allowed to be used by players of other races without even placing them on their expansion list so the skills that are usable by non psionic PCs Knowledge (Psionics) (so you know a little about the subject), Psicraft (so when the tank in your party gets blasted with an Exhalation of the Black Dragon you know that you'd better start running), and Use Psionic Device (for those adventurers that can't not touch the shiny little gizmo that the big psionic bad guy dropped). All of these would have to be cross class skills for a non-Kalashtar character (heck, most of them are cross class for psionic characters) so any benefit that they got from taking these would be at a cost.
TimRat 07-09-05, 07:36 PM	you can put those skills on your expansion lists as long as they are not restricted if you so choose. i spoke with HQ and they said you could do that if you wanted to. obviously you have to meet the prereqs (but then why put them on there :)
DBlizzard 07-09-05, 11:45 PM	uh, the expanded psionics handbook IS on the secondary source list... in fact it's the 3rd item listed under optional materials on page 2, and then has some extra mention at the end (that the spells and cleric doamins at the end are available without needing to be on an expansion list) However, those areas aren't listed as being a secondary source. It's listed as being an "optional material." That's because you only need it to run a psion. However, the "secondary source list" on page 11 lists the "current secondary sources" and the XPH does not appear on the list. That would imply, just on reading the rules, that it's not a secondary source. Clearly, timrat has found out the intent is to allow such things. Obviously, they just missed putting it on the 'secondary source list." I wonder about the feats in the book that aren't psionic specific. What about Psionic Hole? That's not psionic (indeed, it's anti-psionic). What about Cloak Dance? That has no relation to psionics at all.
DoveArrow 07-10-05, 12:52 PM	I wonder about the feats in the book that aren't psionic specific. What about Psionic Hole? That's not psionic (indeed, it's anti-psionic). What about Cloak Dance? That has no relation to psionics at all. All right, that does it! I hereby decree that you will use the feats and the skills from the Player's Handbook only, and you will like it! Just kidding. I would say that if HQ says that it's okay to use the skills, it's okay to use the feats too.
Frobi-Wan Kenobi 07-23-05, 10:26 PM	Hey TimRat - still looking for an answer on this question. Also, is the price for crafting a Homunculus reduced by the Craft Construct & Extraordinary Artisan feats? Thanks for all the other help.
TimRat 07-25-05, 03:43 PM	i'll have to ask on the feats questions honestly.
TimRat 07-25-05, 07:57 PM	no feats may be selected out of the psionics book. unless of course you use the kalashtar card