2 claw attks [Archive] - Wizards Community

2 claw attks [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Tasaleen
06-14-04, 09:13 PM Ok I used to think that when it says, 2 claw attks (1d4), that it meant that you roll, if you hit you roll two 1d4s and add strenght to one and half to the other. Now I'm completely confused after I discussed it with a friend. He says that you roll 1d4 pluse strength once and thats it, not twice. So why put the words " 2 claws" in the entry.

Help me, which one is right, have I been looking at this wrong for all this time?
ChaoticGod
06-14-04, 09:37 PM 2 claws (1d4) is a natural weapon attack routine.

It means that if you are taking a full attack action you get 2 claw attacks at your full bonus.

You roll the first melee attack at full bonus, if you hit you deal 1d4+Str damage.

Then you roll the second melee attack, again at full bonus. If you hit you still deal 1d4+Str damage. There is no halving. There is no 'off-hand' when using natural weapons.

However, some secondary natural attacks such as bite may only add half the Str bonus to damage. They are also at -5 to hit since they are 'secondary' attacks.

This sounds pretty great doesn't it. This can give you 2 or more attacks even at first level.

The trade off is that the attack routine never gets any better. Whether your BAB is +0 or +20 you still only get 2 claw attacks (still at full bonus). You can choose to use your regular BAB progression (+11/+6/+1 for example) instead but in that case you give up the second claw attack.

A natural weapon such as a claw can also be used as a secondary attack in conjunction with a normal weapon (ie sword) attack. For example you could wield a longsword at +11/+6/+1 and then get a single claw attack at +6 (a -5 penalty for being secondary).

This is all of the top of my head, but if I'm in the slightest way wrong I'm sure someone will gleefully correct me :D
Tasaleen
06-14-04, 10:03 PM Ok, we were both wrong, but I like this even better.

Thanks for the reply. Good info.

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Tasaleen 06-14-04, 09:13 PM	Ok I used to think that when it says, 2 claw attks (1d4), that it meant that you roll, if you hit you roll two 1d4s and add strenght to one and half to the other. Now I'm completely confused after I discussed it with a friend. He says that you roll 1d4 pluse strength once and thats it, not twice. So why put the words " 2 claws" in the entry. Help me, which one is right, have I been looking at this wrong for all this time?
ChaoticGod 06-14-04, 09:37 PM	2 claws (1d4) is a natural weapon attack routine. It means that if you are taking a full attack action you get 2 claw attacks at your full bonus. You roll the first melee attack at full bonus, if you hit you deal 1d4+Str damage. Then you roll the second melee attack, again at full bonus. If you hit you still deal 1d4+Str damage. There is no halving. There is no 'off-hand' when using natural weapons. However, some secondary natural attacks such as bite may only add half the Str bonus to damage. They are also at -5 to hit since they are 'secondary' attacks. This sounds pretty great doesn't it. This can give you 2 or more attacks even at first level. The trade off is that the attack routine never gets any better. Whether your BAB is +0 or +20 you still only get 2 claw attacks (still at full bonus). You can choose to use your regular BAB progression (+11/+6/+1 for example) instead but in that case you give up the second claw attack. A natural weapon such as a claw can also be used as a secondary attack in conjunction with a normal weapon (ie sword) attack. For example you could wield a longsword at +11/+6/+1 and then get a single claw attack at +6 (a -5 penalty for being secondary). This is all of the top of my head, but if I'm in the slightest way wrong I'm sure someone will gleefully correct me :D
Tasaleen 06-14-04, 10:03 PM	Ok, we were both wrong, but I like this even better. Thanks for the reply. Good info.