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DKnight 08-04-04, 07:36 AM	First off, I'm running 3.0 and so that's the rules I'm familiar with, I doubt that Centuar's have radically changed, and the Lemure I've never seen before so any info would be nice. A Centaur's stat's list it as having a Greatclub or Heavy Lance as a weapon than 2 hooves. I'd like to know if they can attack with the Great Club, than the hooves (at -5 penalty) as a Full Round Action. And what if they have a +14/+9 (5th level Ranger Defualt Array, +5 Strength Bonus, + 1 MW BTW) Possible Flaw in E-Tools. But Anyway would the Ranger have, +14/+9 and a +4 for the 2 Hooves? Or would it use, the GClub or Hooves? I picked up a pack of D&D Mini's (Giant's of Legend) today and was Wondering what a Lemure is? http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/GoL_Gallery/72GoL34Lemure.jpg As you can see from the pic it's some sort of pink blob. I'm curious if some could tell me a little about it I'd be happy, I don't want it's stat block, although I do want to know what book it's in.
cerebus 08-04-04, 08:41 AM	A lemure was a 1e and 2e devil, also known as a "least devil." They were the first form of raw soul matter, and could be made into other devils by the higher-ups. Typically they had 1 HD and were very weak in combat. In 2e, after the came up with the "Blood War" concept, they were used as infantry in the endless Blood Wars between Baazetu and Tanari.
Egres 08-04-04, 08:42 AM	1)From the SRD: Manufactured Weapons: Some monsters employ manufactured weapons when they attack. Creatures that use swords, bows, spears, and the like follow the same rules as characters, including those for additional attacks from a high base attack bonus and two-weapon fighting penalties. This category also includes “found items,” such as rocks and logs, that a creature wields in combat— in essence, any weapon that is not intrinsic to the creature. Some creatures combine attacks with natural and manufactured weapons when they make a full attack. When they do so, the manufactured weapon attack is considered the primary attack unless the creature’s description indicates otherwise and any natural weapons the creature also uses are considered secondary natural attacks. These secondary attacks do not interfere with the primary attack as attacking with an off-hand weapon does, but they take the usual –5 penalty (or –2 with the Multiattack feat) for such attacks, even if the natural weapon used is normally the creature’s primary natural weapon 2)It' s in the Monster Manual. It's a lesser,brainless Devil.
DKnight 08-04-04, 09:44 AM	Thanks for the help. Because the Lemure has no picture, and since I haven't needed Devils or Demons in my campaign I must've forgotten their discription and been unable to place it to the Mini. At least it isn't a Fairy Floss Elemental. So the Centaur Ranger's Full Round attack is Greatclub +14/+9 Hooves +4? Or is the Natural weapon's attack based off the Full BAB? With Half Strength?
Egres 08-04-04, 01:26 PM	Or is the Natural weapon's attack based off the Full BAB? With Half Strength? It's based on the full BAB. With half-strenght.(of course only for the damage).
DKnight 08-04-04, 01:57 PM	Thank you.