3.5 Golem magic immunity [Archive] - Wizards Community

3.5 Golem magic immunity [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Jurosem
08-03-04, 11:58 PM I just read the 3.5 official FAQ, and in it it says:
As noted in each golem's entry, it resists any spell or spell-like ability that allows spell resistance. (In previous versions of the D&D game, golems were immune to most supernatural effects as well, this is no longer the case).
I don't have the 3.5 core rulebooks, so I make do with the 3.0 books plus the SRD, the update booklet, and what I can glean from 3.5 accessory books. This passage in the FAQ contradicts the SRD, and the entries for the dragon-type golems in the Draconomicon, which are 3.5.
Does this mean that golems are now vulnerable to supernatural effects, and an iron golem will get roasted by a red dragon's breath? Or do they get some energy resistances or immunities? Or is this FAQ entry just kinda screwy? ;)
Could somebody who has the 3.5 Monster Manual please quote for me the exact wording of the Magic Immunity description for golems in general, and maybe one or two of the specific entries for the Iron golem or Stone golem or something?
Thanks
Freefall
08-04-04, 12:30 AM I don't know if exact quoting is allowed here, but the gist of the "Spell Immunity" entry in the 3.5 MM glossary is that it works like infinite spell resistance. It does not mention supernatural abilities/powers, and specifically states that spells that do not allow spell resistance checks will affect the target normally. The specific entries for iron and stone golems say the same thing, followed by a few specific exceptions.

So, it certainly sounds like golems are now vulnerable to breath weapons (except where immune due to being constructs, which looks to me like it does not include petrification. Wonder what happens if you petrify a stone golem).
cwslyclgh
08-04-04, 12:46 AM which looks to me like it does not include petrification. Constructs are immune to any effect that requires a fortitude save unless it also effects objects... which makes them immune to most pertrification attacks (which only affetcs objects that are considered part of a creature being petrified under the rules, and have no effect on unattended objects).
Freefall
08-04-04, 02:38 AM What? You mean I can't turn wooden chairs into stone with a Prismatic Spray? Why not? I dunno, it seems kind of silly to me that it is impossible to petrify a fork or backpack unless a living creature is touching it.

Okay, so what if you tie a rabbit to an inanimate object and then petrify the rabbit? Then would the object turn to stone?

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Jurosem 08-03-04, 11:58 PM	I just read the 3.5 official FAQ, and in it it says: As noted in each golem's entry, it resists any spell or spell-like ability that allows spell resistance. (In previous versions of the D&D game, golems were immune to most supernatural effects as well, this is no longer the case). I don't have the 3.5 core rulebooks, so I make do with the 3.0 books plus the SRD, the update booklet, and what I can glean from 3.5 accessory books. This passage in the FAQ contradicts the SRD, and the entries for the dragon-type golems in the Draconomicon, which are 3.5. Does this mean that golems are now vulnerable to supernatural effects, and an iron golem will get roasted by a red dragon's breath? Or do they get some energy resistances or immunities? Or is this FAQ entry just kinda screwy? ;) Could somebody who has the 3.5 Monster Manual please quote for me the exact wording of the Magic Immunity description for golems in general, and maybe one or two of the specific entries for the Iron golem or Stone golem or something? Thanks
Freefall 08-04-04, 12:30 AM	I don't know if exact quoting is allowed here, but the gist of the "Spell Immunity" entry in the 3.5 MM glossary is that it works like infinite spell resistance. It does not mention supernatural abilities/powers, and specifically states that spells that do not allow spell resistance checks will affect the target normally. The specific entries for iron and stone golems say the same thing, followed by a few specific exceptions. So, it certainly sounds like golems are now vulnerable to breath weapons (except where immune due to being constructs, which looks to me like it does not include petrification. Wonder what happens if you petrify a stone golem).
cwslyclgh 08-04-04, 12:46 AM	which looks to me like it does not include petrification. Constructs are immune to any effect that requires a fortitude save unless it also effects objects... which makes them immune to most pertrification attacks (which only affetcs objects that are considered part of a creature being petrified under the rules, and have no effect on unattended objects).
Freefall 08-04-04, 02:38 AM	What? You mean I can't turn wooden chairs into stone with a Prismatic Spray? Why not? I dunno, it seems kind of silly to me that it is impossible to petrify a fork or backpack unless a living creature is touching it. Okay, so what if you tie a rabbit to an inanimate object and then petrify the rabbit? Then would the object turn to stone?